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I actually do have the original cable -- just found it.

 

Ed

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Aw, well... I'd need a completely stock headphone. One that has ear pad swap would be okay but if it's already outfitted with a custom cable, that would be troublesome.

 

The reason being that I would like the mod to work pretty much the same for everyone, and to also disregard how much the cable would affect the sound.

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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post
 

Aw, well... I'd need a completely stock headphone. One that has ear pad swap would be okay but if it's already outfitted with a custom cable, that would be troublesome.

 

The reason being that I would like the mod to work pretty much the same for everyone, and to also disregard how much the cable would affect the sound.

Hey Bill, how much of the mod is due to the Martin Custom earcups? If wooden earcups over titanium are required for vibration dampening, it may be difficult given how swamped with orders Martin is. 

post #859 of 866

I'll be happy to put the original cable back on them.

 

Ed

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That's why I'm asking for a stock pair.

 

The wood cups do affect the sound slightly.

 

But I'm confident I can reproduce at least about 80-90% of everything even with the stock cups since I understand what needs to be done now.

post #861 of 866

I'll happily volunteer mine as the guinea pigs.  Totally stock.

post #862 of 866

Great. I'll PM you details, my good sir. :beerchug: 

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Waiting for your article Bill. When can we expect you reveal your secrets?

 

I bought es10 based pretty much on comments on this forum and im happy with them but if there is something that can be done to improve them even better im all ears. I know you changed cabel and said it is huge improvement. Still thinking that? You also swapped earcups. That seems pretty expensive (if somebody even makes them) and anyway i dont like the look. Finally, you wrote something about dampening material change, which made better midrange. Which is exactly what i miss on es10. Deep bass, clear details but mids seems to me quite unmusical and unnatural. Especially breath instruments and piano are ...meh.

 

Anyway. Thanks for sharing your knowledge about this special headphones and i hope i will see soon some good article, which will help me to mod my es10.

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Originally Posted by vincik View Post
 

Waiting for your article Bill. When can we expect you reveal your secrets?

 

I bought es10 based pretty much on comments on this forum and im happy with them but if there is something that can be done to improve them even better im all ears. I know you changed cabel and said it is huge improvement. Still thinking that? You also swapped earcups. That seems pretty expensive (if somebody even makes them) and anyway i dont like the look. Finally, you wrote something about dampening material change, which made better midrange. Which is exactly what i miss on es10. Deep bass, clear details but mids seems to me quite unmusical and unnatural. Especially breath instruments and piano are ...meh.

 

Anyway. Thanks for sharing your knowledge about this special headphones and i hope i will see soon some good article, which will help me to mod my es10.

 

You forgot to add in changing of earpads too! :)

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...Deep bass, clear details but mids seems to me quite unmusical and unnatural. Especially breath instruments and piano are ...meh.

 

Indeed, if you want textured bright resonant mids then something like Sennheiser Momentum will do better. But the Momentum sound thin and airy in comparison to the ES10, and the ES10 bring out bass guitar like no other portable headphone. It's Miles Davis vs Red Hot Chili Peppers, neither can is great for both, but in their own turf they are great performers.

 

Is there any way to have the best of both worlds in a single HP via a clever mod? I'm not sure it is even plausible, but the ES10 seem like a good place to start...thus also very interested in seeing about Bill's mods, I have 2 pairs of ES10 and certainly willing to experiment.

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Originally Posted by vincik View Post
 

Waiting for your article Bill. When can we expect you reveal your secrets?

 

I bought es10 based pretty much on comments on this forum and im happy with them but if there is something that can be done to improve them even better im all ears. I know you changed cabel and said it is huge improvement. Still thinking that? You also swapped earcups. That seems pretty expensive (if somebody even makes them) and anyway i dont like the look. Finally, you wrote something about dampening material change, which made better midrange. Which is exactly what i miss on es10. Deep bass, clear details but mids seems to me quite unmusical and unnatural. Especially breath instruments and piano are ...meh.

 

Anyway. Thanks for sharing your knowledge about this special headphones and i hope i will see soon some good article, which will help me to mod my es10.

 

I'll have photos and everything else up within the next month or so. The reason I want a stock pair as a guinea pig is because my pair is already modded too far... like you said. I would like the next few modifications to work universally with any pair of ES10.

 

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Originally Posted by lbbef View Post
 

You forgot to add in changing of earpads too! :)

 

Which does have a prominent effect on sound. :)

 

I prefer ESW11 ear pads for comfort, though ESW9 ear pads do have the "wow" factor due to improved airiness and bass. Bass is unholy with ESW9 ear pads... and with my particular pair... it can get super overpowered.

 

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Originally Posted by JHern View Post
 

Indeed, if you want textured bright resonant mids then something like Sennheiser Momentum will do better. But the Momentum sound thin and airy in comparison to the ES10, and the ES10 bring out bass guitar like no other portable headphone. It's Miles Davis vs Red Hot Chili Peppers, neither can is great for both, but in their own turf they are great performers.

 

Is there any way to have the best of both worlds in a single HP via a clever mod? I'm not sure it is even plausible, but the ES10 seem like a good place to start...thus also very interested in seeing about Bill's mods, I have 2 pairs of ES10 and certainly willing to experiment.

 

I think you'll be surprised when you hear the modded headphone. It truly is remarkably different. Whether the difference will make it a better headphone is up to you to judge, though.

 

Personally, the ES10 has been a trusted companion, and after all this time, it continues to be the one that I use the most. My other headphones actually don't get as much head time as the ES10 no matter the material. In fact, if I'm listening to something that's bassy, or watching a movie, I'd grab the ES10 over all of my other headphones, so... 

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