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post #586 of 841

Wanted to say this quite a while ago but didn't had time.

 

I'm not really a fan of woodies, but that is one very sexy beast.

 

Very very tempting...

post #587 of 841
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

The ESW9 pads on the ES10 `fix` was mainly implemented when people couldnt purchase any of the ESW11 pads.

Now the ESW11 pads are available for purchase they are a perfect fit as the cups are the same size (ESW11 and ES10).

Oh, I see! I originally asked ATechnica for ESW11 pads, but they said the pads were unavailable (this was about 2 weeks back). So for anyone looking into it, definitely just wait for the ESW11 pads to become available (or search eBay, although I'm afraid to purchase the $70.00 ones on there...) instead of getting the ESW9 pads from AT. And I apologize if someone has already given out all of this information in a previous post, but anyways

Thanks

Mike
post #588 of 841
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So I finally gave in and took advantage of the Sonic deal.  I have to say, out of the box I'm pretty disappointed in the sound of these.  Lack of highs, over-exaggerated, muddy bass.  I'm hoping that the combination of acclimation and actual hours of physical burn-in will allow me to appreciate what everyone is raving about.

 

To be continued....

 

After a few days of non-stop burn-in, these are sounding better.  The highs have come out, and though definitely a dark signature, the bass has tightened up.  Most of my other phones need to be amped to sound their best, but these efficient beasts seem to sound better directly out of my Nexus tablet, iPod touch, or Sansa Fuze.  Think I'll keep 'em and get the ESW11 pads.

post #589 of 841

How on earth do I fit these ESW11 pads on?!? It seems as if they are too small for the headphone.


Edited by coolguyalex - 8/7/13 at 12:30am
post #590 of 841

Hi everyone. I've been going through this thread, and I know a couple of ATH-ES7 owners have already asked how the ATH-ES10 compares to it. Well even though I've found some of the infomation quite useful -- and the rest of this thread just good fun to read -- I thought I'd chime in with a question or two myself anyway.

 

I've recently gone back to my pair of ATH-ES7s and it's been a like a love reborn, however I'm finding myself giving the headphone a bit of a bass boost on my amps quite often, as sometimes the ATH-ES7 sounds a bit too lean for my present tastes. Would the ATH-ES10 cover me in that respect, or do you think I should possibly just make the safe upgrade to the ATH-ES700, and if I still need a more emphasized lowend I can just continue to boost the bass a little?


Edited by sebajun - 8/6/13 at 11:31pm
post #591 of 841
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Originally Posted by sebajun View Post

I've recently gone back to my pair of ATH-ES7s and it's been a like a love reborn, however I'm finding myself giving the headphone a bit of a bass boost on my amps quite often, as sometimes the ATH-ES7 sounds a bit too lean for my present tastes. Would the ATH-ES10 cover me in that respect, or do you think I should possibly just make the safe upgrade to the ATH-ES700, and if I still need a more emphasized lowend I can just continue to boost the bass a little?

 

I have the ES10 and also had the ES700 as a loaner unit from Audio Technica.

 

From what I remember about the ES7, I don't think you would be unhappy moving from the ES7 to the ES10. I remember the ES7 being kind of 'fun' sounding, like the ES10. The ES700 is a bit more neutral and doesn't have the same bass impact as the ES10 does.

 

You can always add bass boost, but remember that pushing the driver beyond design limits can introduce more distortion.

 

Or, you could do this: get both from Amazon Japan, and sell the one you don't like on the FS forum :) Since you combine shipping, you will get a small discount that way and so the resale value is improved slightly.

post #592 of 841
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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

 

I have the ES10 and also had the ES700 as a loaner unit from Audio Technica.

 

From what I remember about the ES7, I don't think you would be unhappy moving from the ES7 to the ES10. I remember the ES7 being kind of 'fun' sounding, like the ES10. The ES700 is a bit more neutral and doesn't have the same bass impact as the ES10 does.

 

You can always add bass boost, but remember that pushing the driver beyond design limits can introduce more distortion.

 

Or, you could do this: get both from Amazon Japan, and sell the one you don't like on the FS forum :) Since you combine shipping, you will get a small discount that way and so the resale value is improved slightly.

 



Thanks for the quick reply, a_recording. I actually subscribe to your Youtube channel and coincidently caught your ATH-ES700 and ATH-ES10 reviews on the same day I was getting back into my ATH-ES7. I left a comment saying thanks for helping me decide to go in for the ES700. As explained earlier though, I'm now finding my ES7 a bit bass-light for my current tastes, so I had to rethink a little. I blame my using the DT770 80ohms for all my casual listening over the last couple of months, at least when I'm at my desk, for wanting a bassier experience as opposed to a more balanced ride these days.

 

So you reckon the ES700 is more neutral than the old ES7? Honestly I think at this point it could be the ES10 for me then. Bigger earcups to get scratched is always a little irksome though lol, although the be fair my ES7 headphone is maybe 4-5 years old, and the cups are pretty much clean -- don't know how I managed that. As for the stock pads on the ES10 being pretty terrible: that's just a damn shame I suppose.

 

I'd love to buy both headphones and see which one I like best, but I don't think I can afford to do that right now, even if I can get most of my money back on the FS forum a little later. 


Edited by sebajun - 8/7/13 at 10:01pm
post #593 of 841
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

And how about sonic/sound differences between the ATH-ESW11 and ATH-ES10(with esw11 pads).

Thanks.
I have both now (ESW11 and ES10-with esw11 pads) and will do a comparison soon.
I also have ESW9.
post #594 of 841
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post


I have both now (ESW11 and ES10-with esw11 pads) and will do a comparison soon.
I also have ESW9.

Lovely set for comparison. Just missing a ESW10JPN but nevermind biggrin.gif

 

Waiting patiently for the results :)

post #595 of 841
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Originally Posted by lbbef View Post

Wanted to say this quite a while ago but didn't had time.

 

I'm not really a fan of woodies, but that is one very sexy beast.

 

Very very tempting...

 

If you want impressions (other than mine) on how it sounds like, you can ask mikemercer, shane55, or... Audeze's CEO. biggrin.gif

 

No, seriously. I was very flattered when the CEO of Audeze told me how impressive that ES10 was. In his own words: "there was nothing missing".

post #596 of 841
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

I have both now (ESW11 and ES10-with esw11 pads) and will do a comparison soon.
I also have ESW9.

 

Oooh I'm excited!

post #597 of 841
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Originally Posted by coolguyalex View Post

How on earth do I fit these ESW11 pads on?!? It seems as if they are too small for the headphone.

Are you sure you dont have the ESW9 pads ?(which are smaller), the ESW11 pads are perfect for the ES10 as the cups are same size.

post #598 of 841
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Edited by ExpatinJapan - 8/15/13 at 9:16pm
post #599 of 841

 

 
 
Brief impressions.
 
ESW11 vs ES10 (with ESW11 pads).
 
Well what can I say they are both great performers and I think personal sonic preferences would top my opinions here.
They are very similar but what it comes down is simply `Wood versus Metal`.
 
 
ESW11 -  drivers 53mm,  5~42,000Hz
ES10  - drivers 53mm, 5~40,000Hz
 
*Specs from Audio Technica website.
 
I tested them using a splitter from my Hifi-M8 with switches set at 2ohms and Gain at 2, I used Flacplayer app.
I switched between them often during each songs to try determine the varied differences in sound signature.
 
ATH-ESW11 seems to have a flatter response overall to my ears, It responds well to amplifying. It is smoother with more mids and at times appears full bodied.
It may be described as a darker sound for lack of a better word.
 
ATH-ES10 appears to be more energetic/aggressive, `lighter` with more treble and at times deeper bass, with amplification the vocals become more forward at the possible expense of the music and the highs can become too high and the treble becomes harsh. Because of the emphasis at times on treble it can appear to have more detail which i think might be  illusionary.
 
If you listen at low to moderate levels I think the ES10 is a quality headphone, the ESW11 shines with amplification from  mid to high volumes.
 
Best all rounder for extended non-fatiguing listening times would be the ATH-ESW11 imho.
post #600 of 841

Sounds about right to me. That was also how I found the ESW11LTD. It sounded nice, but darker than the ES10 for sure.

 

Since I find the ES10 to have better balance, the ESW11LTD isn't "flat" to my ears. But it's all preference.


Just splurged on an ALO Continental portable tube amp. Let's see how it fares.

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