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Wyred4Sound DAC owners.  How did you break yours in?  100+ hours is a fair amount so I'm wondering what everyone did.  Thanks!

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The good news is that I liked it right out of the box. I used it to watch a lot of movies and just waited while it got better and better. My experience was that it kept sounding better well into 200 hours.

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How do you guys like the DAC-2.  I'm thinking of getting it for my LCD-2's.   Also, Silver or Black?


Edited by WarriorAnt - 4/19/11 at 8:24am
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The DAC2 is really nice.  A few of the guys over at the Woo Audio Owners Unite thread have the DAC2 and LCD2 combo.  I have Tesla T-1's and others the HD800.  I know one guy who loves the LCD+DAC2+Woo22 combo.

 

It does need break in!  It did sound good out of the box (I'm not that much an audio snob)  After 50 (probably more but I've lost count) hours the sound stage has really opened up more.  They say once 100 hours you are pretty good and I think 200 and you are there.  I used to have a Proceed (cheapo version of Mark Levinson) DAC and transport and it took a while to break in as well.

 

I got silver because my Woo WA22 is silver.  Everyone else I know has Black.

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I ordered the black DAC-2 yesterday for my LCD-2's which should be shipping.  Now for an amp.  I've never had headphones before just a high end speaker rig so I thought I'd go all out.  

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The Woo WA22 is great with it and I love it.  New but supposed to be killer especially for the LCD2's is the Cavalli Liquid Fire (Can Jam posts w/LCD was really good)  Pre-order now.  http://cavalliaudio.com/products/liquid-fire-amp/  I'd really consider this one for sure.

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I will be pairing the W4S DAC2 with the Cavalli Liquid Fire.  I ordered both the DAC and amp today.tongue_smile.gif

It will be interesting comparing this to my Luxman SQ-N100/ PSA PWD and my Zana Deux SE/Havana DAC (modified by Parts Connexion). 

 

 

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The Woo WA22 is great with it and I love it.  New but supposed to be killer especially for the LCD2's is the Cavalli Liquid Fire (Can Jam posts w/LCD was really good)  Pre-order now.  http://cavalliaudio.com/products/liquid-fire-amp/  I'd really consider this one for sure.



 

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Wyred4Sound told me they had a few clients that connect their LCD's to the back of the W4S DAC-2 and like it.   I haven't decided on an amp yet so I'm going to give that a try until I do.  I'm skeptical about how well the DAC-2 can drive them.

 

I'm considering the Liquid fire but I want to wait until a few folks get their hands on one.  Meanwhile I'm saving my nickels for the fire or something of that level.

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Me too!  I ordered my Liquid Fire last week.  Now the wait!
 

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I will be pairing the W4S DAC2 with the Cavalli Liquid Fire.  I ordered both the DAC and amp today.tongue_smile.gif

It will be interesting comparing this to my Luxman SQ-N100/ PSA PWD and my Zana Deux SE/Havana DAC (modified by Parts Connexion). 

 

 



 



 

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About 48 hours into the process.  I went in as a skeptic about electronics and burn-in but I'm now a believer.  My process is just to loop whatever I have in Foobar and will run it for a week or two straight.  

 

Foobar>>W4S DAC-2>>Schiit Lyr>>HE-4 or FA-011

 

Loving the DAC-2, can't see myself spending more to upgrade


Edited by WNBC - 5/8/11 at 12:24pm
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I thought it sounded pretty good out of the box.  Noticeably more "analog" than the LavryBlack DA10 it replaced.  It did improve well over time.  I just listened to mine, so it took awhile.  A great dac overall, with great sound, and most every connection available.

 

I use mine in a speaker system with a Bottlehead Crack on the side, and don't have LCD2s so I can't comment on that.

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About 48 hours into the process.  I went in as a skeptic about electronics and burn-in but I'm now a believer.  My process is just to loop whatever I have in Foobar and will run it for a week or two straight.  

 

Foobar>>W4S DAC-2>>Schiit Lyr>>HE-4 or FA-011

 

Loving the DAC-2, can't see myself spending more to upgrade

Components need burn in.  Capacitors definitely need burn in time.   My 2.5 decades in high end and the broadcast industry have taught me this.  People can go on and on about how it doesn't exist but I just ignore them.  I don't have time to argue with them I have music I need to get too! :)


 

 

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You're right.  My problem is that my friends are engineers and materials scientists who think burn in is a myth for electronics.  They also don't own any hifi equipment.  I've experienced it with headphones (RE-Zero) and now DAC-2.  Also one experience with cables.  Bought some Blue Jeans Cables and thought I was getting their highest quality cable (Belden 1505F).  When I inserted this cable into my system I was underwhelmed as it was replacing their Belden 1694A.  Turns out I read the website wrong, 1694A is the better cable.  So, psychologically I should have thought 1505F better but the ear was telling me something.  So now I assume nothing until I try it out for myself.    

 


 

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Components need burn in.  Capacitors definitely need burn in time.   My 2.5 decades in high end and the broadcast industry have taught me this.  People can go on and on about how it doesn't exist but I just ignore them.  I don't have time to argue with them I have music I need to get too! :)


 

 



 

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You're right.  My problem is that my friends are engineers and materials scientists who think burn in is a myth for electronics.  They also don't own any hfi equipment.  I've experienced it with headphones (RE-Zero) and now DAC-2.  Also one experience with cables.  Bought some Blue Jeans Cables and thought I was getting their highest quality cable (Belden 1505F).  When I inserted this cable into my system I was underwhelmed as it was replacing their Belden 1694A.  Turns out I read the website wrong, 1694A is the better cable.  So, psychologically I should have thought 1505F better but the ear was telling me something.  So now I assume nothing until I try it out for myself.    

 


 



 


I worked 2.5 decades as a high end broadcast video editor/mixer/colorist in the NYC market.  In all that time I never met one video engineer who had ever heard of any of the high end equipment I owned, Krell, Audio Research, Classe Audio, or THETA DAC's. Not one. they would make all kinds of claims about everything being a myth without any experience at all.   I've rarely met anyone working in an audio sweet where television is mixed who has ever heard of any of these products.  Everything thing to them was a lot of money wasted on bull.   In my experience in that industry most engineers never knew what they were talking about when it came to audio and for the most part when it came to video also.   In my experience they were good at making BNC connectors  and talking a lot of bull to misdirect most people from really finding out how little they knew about the job they had.  If anyone finds this criticism harsh then you work for 2.5 decades in high end broadcast TV in NYC and get back to me.

 

Having said that occasionally I would invite a few to my home to listen to a high end setup.  Once inside their mouths usually dropped open from their new experience and new perspective on high end audio and what is real and what is a myth.  That included changing out cables and letting them hear for themselves the changes that occurred.  Being the wise ass that I am I loved to embarrass them in my home when they discovered that all their bull was actually bull.   I had one set of engineers so fascinated by the high end sound that I could not get them to leave my home and they stayed through the night until the next morning listening to tunes.   One guy once asked me how it was I was able to come to work and actuality mix a show with the standard equipment found in most video and audio editing suites.   I do it for the money I told him.  

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It's probably a good thing none of my friends own any decent equipment, I'd be listening at their places all of the time too beyersmile.png


 

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I worked 2.5 decades as a high end broadcast video editor/mixer/colorist in the NYC market.  In all that time I never met one video engineer who had ever heard of any of the high end equipment I owned, Krell, Audio Research, Classe Audio, or THETA DAC's. Not one. they would make all kinds of claims about everything being a myth without any experience at all.   I've rarely met anyone working in an audio sweet where television is mixed who has ever heard of any of these products.  Everything thing to them was a lot of money wasted on bull.   In my experience in that industry most engineers never knew what they were talking about when it came to audio and for the most part when it came to video also.   In my experience they were good at making BNC connectors  and talking a lot of bull to misdirect most people from really finding out how little they knew about the job they had.  If anyone finds this criticism harsh then you work for 2.5 decades in high end broadcast TV in NYC and get back to me.

 

Having said that occasionally I would invite a few to my home to listen to a high end setup.  Once inside their mouths usually dropped open from their new experience and new perspective on high end audio and what is real and what is a myth.  That included changing out cables and letting them hear for themselves the changes that occurred.  Being the wise ass that I am I loved to embarrass them in my home when they discovered that all their bull was actually bull.   I had one set of engineers so fascinated by the high end sound that I could not get them to leave my home and they stayed through the night until the next morning listening to tunes.   One guy once asked me how it was I was able to come to work and actuality mix a show with the standard equipment found in most video and audio editing suites.   I do it for the money I told him.  



 

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