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post #61 of 261

thanks for this. side-note about the TMJ: something that really helps is a (chinese) massage of the jaws. when I bought my first IEMs, my TMJ got worse (there may not have been any causal connection but it was the same time), but going to customs and getting massages both helped.
 

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In my big "Flagship Custom IEM" review which included the UE11Pro I found my iPod Video 5.5G had the best synergy with UE11Pro.  The bass was well controlled and not over-the-top like with my iPhone 3GS or several different amps.  That was summer 2009 but I haven't gone out and tried all my new gear with them because I was spending more time with the JH13Pro and ES5.  At some point I can revisit amp synergy with UE11Pro, but for now take a look at my old review.

 

I reported a while back that I had some background hiss with my Amphora, which uses the same circuit in the headphone amp.  The ES3X hiss the most with it, and the JH13Pro the least, while the UE11Pro  and ES5 are in the middle.  So only the hiss with ES3X is really intrusive during quiet passages - but a Westone volume attenuator with very slightly reduced volume kills the hiss completely, although it hurts the transparency slightly.

 

I have trouble chewing food while wearing my custom IEM because my TMJ makes clicking and popping noises when I bite down, and sometimes the IEM make it worse.  The Westone are more comfortable but no better with the clicking.



 


Edited by melomaniac - 3/19/11 at 2:10pm
post #62 of 261

^melomaniac, what is your preferred source>amp>UERM set-up and settings?  With which music?  Thanks!

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^melomaniac, what is your preferred source>amp>UERM set-up and settings?  With which music?  Thanks!


hm... okay, let's see - in ascending order of audio goodness:

 

often I just take an iPod5.5->UERM for walking the dog, and vocal pop or funk;

but iPod5.5->Tomahawk->UERM is clearly better (more lively, better separation).

netbook/iMac->PicoUSB->UERM is great with pretty much everything;

iMod->Tomahawk->UERM is just as good, but a little less engaging than

HM601->UERM.   both ways work very well for classical music and jazz.

 

right now, HM601->UERM is my best portable rig (exclusively 24/96 flac).

I found that the UERM needs an amp mostly if I want to tease out the

maximum freq extension (both hi and lo) and slam. but often if that's the

music flavor, I'd grab my 11Pro or, if stationary, DT880s and a tube amp.

however, the UERM has sparkle and air that beat my DT880s.

 

recently I've come across a treasure trove of avantgarde 20th century

music, transcoded by someone from vinyl, and the UERM does very

well with that kind of challenging material straight from the netbook I

downloaded the files to!

 

today I established that for me, the DT880 sounds nice straight out

of the HM-601, but amped is better. for the UERM, I think an amp

is not strictly necessary; but every time I use the UERM, I think

carefully about the quality of the tracks I'm going to line up: GIGO.

other headphones are less picky ;-)

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Had no idea my UE Reference Monitors were in the mail and received them last night!!



They snuck mine out too!  I just got a shipping notice so I should have my UE-11 before the end of the week.

 

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post #65 of 261

@shipsupt, I was going to try and make you impatient with a quick (yeah, that's my excuse) macro shot I took of one of my iems- but after looking at mkubota's images again, I felt like a dad that just realized his kid is ugly. blink.gif

 

Erm (UErm)...go look at mkubota's pics.  My shots don't look as nice.  (Maybe it's not me, maybe it's the purple!  redface.gif)

 

 

 

BTW, thanks shipsupt & HeadphoneAddict...after reading your reviews I really "need" to try my customs with a WA6SE...

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post #66 of 261

Just want to connect threads a bit since UE was also at the Spring NYC meet and there may be some posts later here as well:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/510047/ultimate-ears-in-ear-reference-monitors-capitol-studios-collaboration-announcement-and-first-impressions

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post #67 of 261

My customs arrived today.  I chose the UE-11 based on my impressions at the meet.  I had all intentions of going with the 18, but I trusted my ears.  I am sure I'll always wonder if I made the right choice, but I can say after listening today I am so happy I made the plunge to get customs!

I just want to share some general impressions from my first day.  Fit was perfect.  Wow, these things go WAY down the ear canal!  No problems inserting, great seal.  The only time I get slight movement and discomfort is when I smile, you know, a big goofy grin.  This was a slight problem today as I was having a hard time not grinning like a kid on Christmas!  After they are in a while they disappear.  I find that I notice them more just after I take them out, my ears feel... Stretched, or empty.  Strange, I know.

When I first cued up some tunes from the iPod via a Pico DAC/AMP I was a little thrown off.  To try and explain it, I felt overwhelmed.  There was so much there I was worried that they were bloated.  Give it a few minutes... There... Wow!  Holy sh_t!  This was like no other IEM I had heard.... Not that I've heard that many.  This was huge full sound with all the details.  This was like putting on some serious full size headphones, not IEM's.  I was immediately picking up details I hadn't heard before coupled with heaps of lows.  Ok, it's a new expensive toy, I may be going over the top, but these things blew me away.  I really had to adjust to a sound so much bigger than I was used to when popping something inside my ear.  The sound is big, and RIGHT there.  Airy is a word that does not come to mind.  It definitely leans much more towards the closed headphone sound, well duh it's a sealed IEM right. 

I did take time for a quick photo or two... But now I'm off to listen, I can't get enough of these things!

 

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Edited by shipsupt - 3/23/11 at 9:22pm
post #68 of 261

Congrats on the UE11's, shipsupt.  I've been enjoying mine for a week now and was also surprised by how detailed they are, even if they have a slight emphasis in the lower end bass. 

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@ shipsupt.

 

Congrats... they're beautiful (nice photo's too).

Glad you're enjoying them. After you've had them for a while, please be sure to post some more impressions.

 

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Congrats on the UE11's, shipsupt.  I've been enjoying mine for a week now and was also surprised by how detailed they are, even if they have a slight emphasis in the lower end bass. 



How would you say your UE11s compare with the TF10s?  I expect the former to be better in many ways; but could you tell us in what particular ways and by how much?  Thanks!

post #71 of 261

TF10s are nowhere as detailed as UE11/18, and cannot capture the textures of instruments. The TF10s have a general FR curve of the UE11/18s (bass, trebles), but veiled in comparison. Compared to UE18, noticeably lack of air, smaller soundstage with less precise imaging. Extensions not as low, more roll of in the highs. But bass department comes reasonably close impact wise.

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TF10s are nowhere as detailed as UE11/18, and cannot capture the textures of instruments. The TF10s have a general FR curve of the UE11/18s (bass, trebles), but veiled in comparison. Compared to UE18, noticeably lack of air, smaller soundstage with less precise imaging. Extensions not as low, more roll of in the highs. But bass department comes reasonably close impact wise.


I was thinking that the TF10s have a similar FR curve as the UE11s.  But are you saying that the UE11s have a similar curve to the 18s too?  I just got the RMs, and while they do sound really excellent I have to admit that on occasion I miss the 'fun' factor that the TF10s have.  I am thinking that the 11s might be the TF10s + midrange and refinement across the board.  Note:  I am not a one IEM guy.  My musical tastes are far too diverse for one flavor or sound sig!  ksc75smile.gif etysmile.gif o2smile.gif

post #73 of 261

IMHO the 11Pro offers great detail and loads of fun, but while the UERM is accurate and neutral, the 11Pro accentuates enthusiastically. they're like your two buddies watching a show with you, and really both are positively into it, but one will occasionally whoop and exaggerate, while the other stays relatively calm and even-keeled. you've got to appreciate both types.

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IMHO the 11Pro offers great detail and loads of fun, but while the UERM is accurate and neutral, the 11Pro accentuates enthusiastically. they're like your two buddies watching a show with you, and really both are positively into it, but one will occasionally whoop and exaggerate, while the other stays relatively calm and even-keeled. you've got to appreciate both types.


Do you feel they are equally detailed and revealing?  Does the fun get in the way of the micro detail sometimes?

 

post #75 of 261

by the way:
 

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iMod->Tomahawk->UERM is just as good, but a little less engaging than

HM601->UERM.   both ways work very well for classical music and jazz.

 

right now, HM601->UERM is my best portable rig (exclusively 24/96 flac).

 

it occurred to me too late that this could perhaps be misread as HM-601 > iMod.

that's not the case for me, since (as I posted elsewhere) the iMod + amp combo

on redbook CD material retrieves more bass and different high frequencies - less

rounded, more glassy or even etched depending on source quality. the HM-601

here serves up almost exclusively higher resolutions, so it's not strictly a fair

comparison. I prefer my higher resolution recordings to standard or lower rez fare,

so it figures that I like the HM-601 a lot. but having listened to my iMod today for

about an hour, with the UERM amped by my Tomahawk, for some Autechre

and some Lazaridis playing Liszt, I can tell you that the grand piano can give

you palpitations when treated like this, almost as easily as Autechre will ;-) so

the iMod still shreds, and in my use gets the benefit of an external amp, while

the HM-601 has the benefit of higher resolution files, but no amp. differences...

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