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Originally Posted by TehJam View Post

For adamlr, Smog is a record label, this is the release I was talking about:

 

http://www.beatport.com/release/perspective/892110

 

My favorite off the album:

 

 

cheers! definitely going to try that out tomorrow.

 

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Originally Posted by iPhone IEM View Post

 

 

Seriously, reading the thread and knowing what descriptions I'm looking for is helpful.

 

So yeah, you are both right, Nero and Gemini are both melodic dubstep; but Nero is far better imo.

 

And I am finding I like house as well, I noticed in the first few pages that Feed Me is listed as Electro-House, but Deadmau5 and Tiesto and such don't use "The Drop" - so I was thinking that maybe Feed Me should be in a sub-category=  Electro-Dubhouse.  I did find some stuff from Swedish House Mafia that had some slight drops; therefore I am looking into Zedd and Knife Party, also going to take the advice on DnB; because I love the Drop.

glad to help. i urge you to try all of the recommendations and use the "related links" on the side to find things by yourself aswell, you never know what your gonna find and if its going to blow your mind away and introduce you to a whole new world of music.

 

as for "the drop". its just a term to describe that sudden outburst of sound and mayhem you were talking about earlyer on, no need for the "" when you use it - its a legitimate term and people will know what your talking about.

 

while were on the subject - heres a good old track that describes it wonderfully (i hope the "insert video" will work this time) this is such a brilliant track! i remember when it was released.

 

post #3377 of 5797
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Best list so far, IMO. Though I do like KillSonik I really think the project pales in comparison to Chasing Shadows. Some of the most legendary Dubstep ever. Ill is the reason I got interested in the genre at all.

 

Seven Lions is great though. Brings a really big picture to the scene like Gemini does and it's rare.

 

Also for someone that likes Feed Me so much...Check out at least Spor(Feed Me)'s Pacifica EP. Amazing.

 

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Originally Posted by TehJam View Post

Ok for the guy who wants melodic dubstep sort of stuff here's a good list (I also have one of the first page of the thread).

 

Nero

Gemini

Meta

Seven Lions

Koven

NumberNin6

Xilent

Chasing Shadows (KillSonik is their new alias, also very good)

post #3378 of 5797

I don't know how you guys do it, but I find there are WAAAY too many genre's and sub-genres of EDM music. I could never decipher what's different between two variations, I just dig the sound haha :p

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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

 

cheers! definitely going to try that out tomorrow.

 

glad to help. i urge you to try all of the recommendations and use the "related links" on the side to find things by yourself aswell, you never know what your gonna find and if its going to blow your mind away and introduce you to a whole new world of music.

 

as for "the drop". its just a term to describe that sudden outburst of sound and mayhem you were talking about earlyer on, no need for the "" when you use it - its a legitimate term and people will know what your talking about.

 

while were on the subject - heres a good old track that describes it wonderfully (i hope the "insert video" will work this time) this is such a brilliant track! i remember when it was released.

 

Lol etysmile.gif man what an awesome little track.  It literally made me smile and chuckle, I love the drop.  I listened to it again, second time still made me grin like an idiot.

post #3380 of 5797

That's really cool! It's like designing in Photoshop with layers, only with beats. What a great video!

post #3381 of 5797
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I don't know how you guys do it, but I find there are WAAAY too many genre's and sub-genres of EDM music. I could never decipher what's different between two variations, I just dig the sound haha :p

the name doesnt matter imo, if you like the music - that should be enough. 

however, it does come in handy when you want more and you dont know what to look for. to be honest, i cant always differentiate just by listening, as i said, i use the genre name as a tool to find similar music, nothing more

post #3382 of 5797
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Originally Posted by zerogun View Post

I don't know how you guys do it, but I find there are WAAAY too many genre's and sub-genres of EDM music. I could never decipher what's different between two variations, I just dig the sound haha :p

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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

the name doesnt matter imo, if you like the music - that should be enough. 

however, it does come in handy when you want more and you dont know what to look for. to be honest, i cant always differentiate just by listening, as i said, i use the genre name as a tool to find similar music, nothing more

 

I can hardly ever label a song's genre correctly by just listening to it myself (this applies to most styles of music, not just electronic). I have absolutely no idea what's the difference between electronica and techno, or where's the line between techno and trance, or why sometimes something I thought to be trance is actually called progressive house. But I agree 100% with what adamlr said: Only the music matters. Categories can come in handy from time to time, but I often find them to be more of a burden and an inhibitor than anything else.

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Touhou <3 Both of these are from the same album Abandonded Dancehall from Alstroemeria.
post #3384 of 5797
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Originally Posted by TJ Elite View Post

 

I can hardly ever label a song's genre correctly by just listening to it myself (this applies to most styles of music, not just electronic). I have absolutely no idea what's the difference between electronica and techno, or where's the line between techno and trance, or why sometimes something I thought to be trance is actually called progressive house. But I agree 100% with what adamlr said: Only the music matters. Categories can come in handy from time to time, but I often find them to be more of a burden and an inhibitor than anything else.

im glad we agree, but i wouldnt say anything is a burden. as i said, if you know the specific genre its easyer to find other similar producers. what i do find a burden is arguments about genre. ie. "no its not heavy/filthy/hardcore dubstep - its brostep", or boycotting an entire genre because you dont like the most common representative, like "skrillex makes brostep, therefor all brostep sucks. i hate brostep, brostep is too mainstream so i cant like it" etc. i hardly believe you can hate an entire type of music with no exception based solely on the name it carries.

 

as for recognizing genre by hearing, i remember that i was really good at that when i was a metalhead, but with edm its not as simple. i can usually recognize the general genre, but going into specific nuances and accurate name calling is almost always beyond me. i can tell drum and bass apart from breakbeat, i can probably tell liquid d&b apart from regular other d&b, but really no further than that.


Edited by adamlr - 10/11/12 at 5:18am
post #3385 of 5797
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im glad we agree, but i wouldnt say anything is a burden. as i said, if you know the specific genre its easyer to find other similar producers. what i do find a burden is arguments about genre. ie. "no its not heavy/filthy/hardcore dubstep - its brostep", or boycotting an entire genre because you dont like the most common representative, like "skrillex makes brostep, therefor all brostep sucks. i hate brostep, brostep is too mainstream so i cant like it" etc. i hardly believe you can hate an entire type of music with no exception based solely on the name it carries.

 

as for recognizing genre by hearing, i remember that i was really good at that when i was a metalhead, but with edm its not as simple. i can usually recognize the general genre, but going into specific nuances and accurate name calling is almost always beyond me. i can tell drum and bass apart from breakbeat, i can probably tell liquid d&b apart from regular other d&b, but really no further than that.

 

Yes arguing about what genre a certain song or artist falls under achieves absolutely nothing. What I was trying to distill down to a couple of words by saying that genres can be a burden and an inhibitor was that it often seems to me that a lot of artists are afraid to wander too far from the kind of music they are expected to make and try to not go too much outside the imaginary boundaries of a specific genre. A lot of this is often probably the fanbase's fault because majority of people are very narrow minded and only listen to specific genres and don't even want to make an attempt to appreciate anything else. Then again, some people are unfortunately in the music business mainly for the money, so staying within a certain genre is a good way to maximize your mass appeal i.e. your income.

 

I've heard very little DnB and breakbeat, but I think would be able to tell the two apart just based on the beats. Trying to compare them on any other musical aspects, however, would probably be beyond my capabilities.

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Yes arguing about what genre a certain song or artist falls under achieves absolutely nothing. What I was trying to distill down to a couple of words by saying that genres can be a burden and an inhibitor was that it often seems to me that a lot of artists are afraid to wander too far from the kind of music they are expected to make and try to not go too much outside the imaginary boundaries of a specific genre. A lot of this is often probably the fanbase's fault because majority of people are very narrow minded and only listen to specific genres and don't even want to make an attempt to appreciate anything else. Then again, some people are unfortunately in the music business mainly for the money, so staying within a certain genre is a good way to maximize your mass appeal i.e. your income.

 

I've heard very little DnB and breakbeat, but I think would be able to tell the two apart just based on the beats. Trying to compare them on any other musical aspects, however, would probably be beyond my capabilities.

your absolutely right! thats why whenever i find a group who does push the limit between two (or more) im very respectful. such artists are rare, but they do exist. i dont know if your familiar with a genre called "technoid", but this is a good example. the name was basically coined to put together electro-industrial, Glitch, Post-industrial music and IDM (the genre list was taken from the wiki page fro a group called gridlock). so granted, a genre name was given, but in actuality it was a name just for the sake of naming because boundaries were definitely pushed.

i also find such genres as minimal, electronic and experimental to be rather ambiguous, leaving alot of room to stretch said boundarys, even if it is within a certain frame. 

post #3387 of 5797
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You guys should check out the first page for an example of differences. It's usually based on BPM and beat structure. 

 

As for Electronica...I don't consider it a genre. It's a tag a lot of Ambient artists get these days because no one calls it Ambient. It's rather stupid. iTunes labels any EDM CD as either Dance or Electronica by default when I rip it and it pisses me off. 

 

Anyway, as for Techno, House, and Trance. I think Techno is pretty awful and boring. Never been able to get into it. Not sure why it became the 'bubble' term for EDM. House and Trance is all about riding a fine like between BPM. It's easy to get them mixed up but in general if it sounds more 'big' it's Trance and if it doesn't it's likely House. 

 

Then you've got Prog. House, Minimal House, Hard House, etc. Digging into these subgenres is what's stupid. I think properly classifying a general genre is very important, but getting into fights over whether it's DrumStep, HalfStep, Brostep, or whatever the hell they think of next, is just stupid. 

 

Oh, and Trap sucks. beerchug.gif

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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

You guys should check out the first page for an example of differences. It's usually based on BPM and beat structure. 

 

As for Electronica...I don't consider it a genre. It's a tag a lot of Ambient artists get these days because no one calls it Ambient. It's rather stupid. iTunes labels any EDM CD as either Dance or Electronica by default when I rip it and it pisses me off. 

 

Anyway, as for Techno, House, and Trance. I think Techno is pretty awful and boring. Never been able to get into it. Not sure why it became the 'bubble' term for EDM. House and Trance is all about riding a fine like between BPM. It's easy to get them mixed up but in general if it sounds more 'big' it's Trance and if it doesn't it's likely House. 

 

Then you've got Prog. House, Minimal House, Hard House, etc. Digging into these subgenres is what's stupid. I think properly classifying a general genre is very important, but getting into fights over whether it's DrumStep, HalfStep, Brostep, or whatever the hell they think of next, is just stupid. 

 

Oh, and Trap sucks. beerchug.gif

oh i did check out the 1st page, it was very helpful to me in fact! differences do exist, its a question of whether or not one can recognize them just by hearing, thats what were talking about. 

i think that fundamentally we are all agreed on the whole sub-genre categorizing is useless and general genre should be enough thing. arent we?

 

i agree techno is boring, i do like trap though...

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Just to bump this again. If you went to get it for 'name your price' you may as well know that everything on their Bandcamp is that was. I got it all and have been going through it. Favorite of the bunch so far. 

 

 

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This is some really good stuff I discovered last night. Well worth checking out guy's, especially for you Phutureprimitive fans.
Actraiser - PhantomileYou can pick the EP from from band camp at 'name your price' here.
http://cutrecords.bandcamp.com/album/phantomile-ep
post #3390 of 5797
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http://www.beatport.com/release/turn-up/974835

 

And in case anyone missed it. New Borgore EP is hilarious. Typical Borgore, in usual Borgore fashion. Making songs like Smell Your Dick. Love it.
 

Oh, in case you needed it...another reason is one of the best out there right now.

http://thissongissick.com/blog/2012/seven-lions-days-to-come-ft-fiora-owsla/

 

New EP in less than a week.

 

IN OTHER NEWS: Never thought I'd be this excited for a Halo project again, but Halo 4's OST is going to blow it up on the 22nd. 


Edited by MorbidToaster - 10/11/12 at 9:51am
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