Definitely check out the Wyred 4 Sound DAC's, either will be in the ballpark.
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I'd rather listen to my T1 through a CMOY than using my HD201 with a Phoenix.
Like everyone else I started out with headphones, here's my take on it...
Edited by Graphicism - 3/16/11 at 8:10pm
@Graphicisim, I simply do not agree, if you compare a pair of $200 to a pair of $1000 headphones you would definitely see a large improvement on the technical aspect side of things, of course the sound signature may not suit your tastes but it does not mean that they are not better headphones. Although I do agree equipment matching is extremely important.
Edited by jackmccabe - 3/16/11 at 2:26pm
Yes if you pay $200 for a headphone and a $1000 for the same headphone in a different colour, there will be no difference.
Yet if you actually look at some of the best value in each price bracket you will almost certainly see an improvement with the $1000
I disagree. I think the Senn HD650 is easily a better headphone than the Beyer T1, at brand new prices. And then on the used market, ~$500 will get you a Stax rig that will sound better than most dynamic cans, period, regardless of price.
I can certainly see wanting to like the more expensive phones better. It sucks paying a lot of money for no improvement.
˄ This forum is now littered with people that think like that... A HD800 or T1 is better than a HD650 or DT880 simply because it costs a lot more and comes in a nicer box, when it fact it is only a side step. From around 2009 there was a massive flood of newcomers to head-fi and with it discussion of some 100+ headphones went out the window to a select few, no longer is it FOTM but FOTD (decade). Rarely do you see anyone speak of Stax, maybe they should re-release their headphone line with green cables?
I have actually heard several headphones costing around $200 and I didn't think much of them, but to be honest I have only heard one set of headphones costing around $1000 and that was the AKG K1000's.
Personally I did not think the dt880, dt990, hd600, hd650 or grado sr325is competed.
If you are happy with hd650's great for you but personally, I found they lack detail and are fairly bloated. They were good for bass heavy genre's but I didn't like them with rock in the slightest.
I still feel that a $1500 dac is a waste on a pair of $200 headphones, but then maybe that is just me.
Edited by jackmccabe - 3/17/11 at 11:27am
And from this you've arrived at the conclusion that all $1000 headphones sound like K1000s? ~ Which I'll add cost around $400 when they were in production.
I have also heard several headphones that cost around $500-700 (w5000, and sr404) and I also found these by far superior to the previously mentioned headphones.
Also I have heard several people compare the hd800's to k1000 and they didn't come away so poorly.
Graphicism, what $1000+ headphones have you heard that perform as well or worse than $200 headphones as you seem to be fairly quick to criticize my points.
Also please note I was talking about the best headphones you could get for $1000 compared to the best for $200.
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$1500 for a DAC is as much a waste on a $1000 headphone as $200 headphone. It's all up to what you are willing to pay. You can easily get a DAC at $200 that will be 99% the equal of DACs costing $1500, and probably even better in some cases. The simple fact is, tested side by side, you would be hard pressed to tell a difference between the $200 and $1500 DAC. If you are truly looking for the best technical performance you can get, you can get it for about $1000, with a headphone amp to boot: http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/dac/dac1
I personally didn't think very much of the benchmark dac-1 when I heard it and I thought you could do much better for the same price for instance pretty much anything from audio-gd in a similar price range or if you are willing to DIY The Buffalo II is excellent