K701 vs Q701? Take a look at this graph. - Page 3

Could this fix some users complaints about bass? I wonder which sounds more neutral.

Yet, the K701 is still priced $100+ under the Q701. But this is still interesting.

The K701 looks more neutral to me.

Looks can be deceiving. The only thing we can get from that graph is relative differences between each.

Looks of the FR graph.. I put a baseline on each FR graph and the K701 is flatter.

What I am saying is that you have to be careful of what is flat (neutral sounding) on the HeadRoom graphs. For example, according to the HeadRoom graph of the HD800, it should be laid back somewhat. In real-life the HD800 is trebly as hell. So consider the possibility that the Q701 might indeed be more neutral even with it's slightly downward tilt / slope compared to the K701.

Yes I know, theory doesn't always match the reality of it. Just going by the book.

I'm more like F' the book, especially if it's wrong or doesn't jive with well trained ears. 

What I am saying is that you have to be careful of what is flat (neutral sounding) on the HeadRoom graphs. For example, according to the HeadRoom graph of the HD800, it should be laid back somewhat. In real-life the HD800 is trebly as hell. So consider the possibility that the Q701 might indeed be more neutral even with it's slightly downward tilt / slope compared to the K701.

Do you realise those graphs are measured only at a particular volume level, compensated according to an "average" HRTF, averaged and smoothed? You can't just say "The graph is flatter so the headphones are more neutral." It's not that straight-forward. It doesn't account for listening volume or the type of music a person listens to at the very least.

More to the point, I've read quite a few comments where people compared multiple pairs of K701s and found very audible variations in the frequency response. As I understand it, taking them apart and adjusting the porting internally affects the amount of bass.

Do you realise those graphs are measured only at a particular volume level, compensated according to an "average" HRTF, averaged and smoothed? You can't just say "The graph is flatter so the headphones are more neutral." It's not that straight-forward. It doesn't account for listening volume or the type of music a person listens to at the very least.

More to the point, I've read quite a few comments where people compared multiple pairs of K701s and found very audible variations in the frequency response. As I understand it, taking them apart and adjusting the porting internally affects the amount of bass.

Weird - word from a very experienced headphone vendor who has stocked the K701 since its release is that the Q701 is the same headphone in slightly different attire - any tweaks Quincy might have suggested are so subtle as to be inaudible. Aaah, humans -- what do we know, right ?

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Originally Posted by Currawong 

Do you realise those graphs are measured only at a particular volume level, compensated according to an "average" HRTF, averaged and smoothed? You can't just say "The graph is flatter so the headphones are more neutral." It's not that straight-forward. It doesn't account for listening volume or the type of music a person listens to at the very least.

 

More to the point, I've read quite a few comments where people compared multiple pairs of K701s and found very audible variations in the frequency response. As I understand it, taking them apart and adjusting the porting internally affects the amount of bass.

Do you think there might be any truth to the newer ones on average having more bass then the old ones? Anax and I were quite surprised at the Q701 we recently heard.