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post #2581 of 3011

Interesting Helium,

 

How does it sound now compared to standard or muses edition?

post #2582 of 3011

Can you use standard headphones (ones that dont require an amp) with this unit? I've seen an odd post or two that state that its intolerably loud on headsets like HD-25's.

 

Is the E1 considered fairly transparent? Is the muses edition considered 'more' transparent? Say compared to the ODAC?


Edited by dclaz - 9/30/13 at 2:33am
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Which of 6 out of 11 op amps are replaced in the MUSES edition?

 

edit: answered here: http://www.head-fi.org/products/asus-xonar-essence-one-muses-edition/reviews/8824

 

Is there much benefit in upgrading the others?


Edited by dclaz - 9/30/13 at 7:08am
post #2584 of 3011
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Originally Posted by dclaz View Post
 

Which of 6 out of 11 op amps are replaced in the MUSES edition?

 

edit: answered here: http://www.head-fi.org/products/asus-xonar-essence-one-muses-edition/reviews/8824

 

Is there much benefit in upgrading the others?

Like chalk & cheese in comparison, Standard Edition SQ = the price you pay, and Muses Edition SQ = way more than it's price tag or it's upgrade price.

 

I no longer own the upgraded E1 Muses Edition but still a big fan of its SQ, I haven't heard anything better up too 2k.

 

Best thing to do is read through this thread to see how others view the Muses


Edited by Gandah - 9/30/13 at 9:00pm
post #2585 of 3011
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Originally Posted by Gandah View Post
 

Like chalk & cheese in comparison, Standard Edition SQ = the price you pay, and Muses Edition SQ = way more than it's price tag or it's upgrade price.

 

I no longer own the upgraded E1 Muses Edition but still a big fan of its SQ, I haven't heard anything better up too 2k.

 

Best thing to do is read through this thread to see how others view the Muses

 

I mean, upgrading the 5 other opamps in the MUSES edition.

 

I hear a lot that the Muses edition is as good as anything that costs up to 2k, and I find it interesting. What the hell are all the DAC's in the 1-2k price range doing, they should really start sounding indistinguishable given you're paying a lot for a piece of hardware that should be designed to `accurately' reproduce or convert a signal.

post #2586 of 3011
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I mean, upgrading the 5 other opamps in the MUSES edition.

 

I hear a lot that the Muses edition is as good as anything that costs up to 2k, and I find it interesting. What the hell are all the DAC's in the 1-2k price range doing, they should really start sounding indistinguishable given you're paying a lot for a piece of hardware that should be designed to `accurately' reproduce or convert a signal.

I think of it like this, Asus is a mainstream company which have buying power when buying parts in bulk, Boutique company's on the other hand do not

post #2587 of 3011

I used to own the E1 with Muses Op Amps. While I do enjoy my Audio-Gd NFB 7.1 better, and I do think it's a better dac,

I would still recommend the Asus as it does punch well above it's weight. If the E1 was made by Schiit audio or someone like that

it would get alot more traction around head-fi. 

 

I started with the standard E1 and bought the opamps seperately. If you can afford it all at once though, just get the Muses edition.

Having said that it may ruin some of the fun of rolling opamps as, IMO, the Muses are the best ones already. 

post #2588 of 3011
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Problem is, it best to get match serial MUSES01. So far I've seen 101, 201, 202, 204, 901. Not sure if any other serial exist.

Me too I was wondering the question but again I doubt that it matters much. If you buy them all at once from the same guy anyway, shouldn't it all be from the same serial number?
 

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Muses has already been launched, if you go back 3-6 pages, one of the ASUS members gave a buying like, you'll also noticed that i recommend buying the Original Essence One and Muses01's separately as it is cheaper. Grab the MUSES Edition if you ever feel as though you'll be using In Ear Earphones with them, the MUSES Edition has a gain switch so it will not out blast IEM's.

Ya I don't care at all about the "Gain Jumper" as no way I'll be using crappy earbudds on such thing and I even prefer the gold lion over the gray one. I can find the standard E1 for 525$ + 5% Taxe online while the Muses is pretty much at least 900$ everywhere and very hard to find. If the difference is only the opamp and so far no one on Internet seems to have tested both, they all tested either one or the other so none could compare and I highly doubt that the sound is 2x better with the Muses01. Usualy different opamp only means different sound, not necessary better at this point so I wonder if it's worth the money. If I'm to get them I'll just buy them it seperately on Aliexpress for 19$/Each rather than Asus who sells them for about 50$/each (-_-)

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Me too I was wondering the question but again I doubt that it matters much. If you buy them all at once from the same guy anyway, shouldn't it all be from the same serial number?
 

Ya I don't care at all about the "Gain Jumper" as no way I'll be using crappy earbudds on such thing and I even prefer the gold lion over the gray one. I can find the standard E1 for 525$ + 5% Taxe online while the Muses is pretty much at least 900$ everywhere and very hard to find. If the difference is only the opamp and so far no one on Internet seems to have tested both, they all tested either one or the other so none could compare and I highly doubt that the sound is 2x better with the Muses01. Usualy different opamp only means different sound, not necessary better at this point so I wonder if it's worth the money. If I'm to get them I'll just buy them it seperately on Aliexpress for 19$/Each rather than Asus who sells them for about 50$/each (-_-)

 

6moons compare the 3 different versions of the E1: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/asus/1.html

however I don't fully trust their reviews, I think they buy in to too much snake oil.


Edited by dclaz - 10/5/13 at 2:07am
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-MUSES01-High-Quality-Audio-J-FET-Input-Dual-Operational-Amplifier-xia-08-/331024315194?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1296333a

 

real or fake anyone purchase from this seller before?


Edited by qqexpress - 10/7/13 at 10:32am
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This is who I bought mine from. they are expensive but they are real.

That was a year ago though. Probably more options now.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-MUSES01-High-Quality-Audio-J-FET-Input-Dual-Operational-Amplifier-/320862379536?pt=US_Amplifier_Parts_Components&hash=item4ab4e35e10


Edited by mwindham08 - 10/6/13 at 5:06am
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This is who I bought mine from. they are expensive but they are real.

That was a year ago though. Probably more options now.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-MUSES01-High-Quality-Audio-J-FET-Input-Dual-Operational-Amplifier-/320862379536?pt=US_Amplifier_Parts_Components&hash=item4ab4e35e10

 

+1

 

Got my muses there too

post #2593 of 3011
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+1

 

Got my muses there too

 

Indeed, they are a fair bit more expensive than some of the others going on ebay. Probably worth it for the piece of mind though :o

post #2594 of 3011
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Originally Posted by mwindham08 View Post
 

This is who I bought mine from. they are expensive but they are real.

That was a year ago though. Probably more options now.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-MUSES01-High-Quality-Audio-J-FET-Input-Dual-Operational-Amplifier-/320862379536?pt=US_Amplifier_Parts_Components&hash=item4ab4e35e10

Umm.. wtf is the point of buying it from this guy who sell them for 60$ if it's gonna cost you almost exactly the same as buying the Muse edition directly from day 1?! I would rather avoid all this trouble and pay an extra 50$ to get the Muse edition as there is no real money saving at 60 x 6 (-_-)

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Originally Posted by PanzerIV View Post
 

Umm.. wtf is the point of buying it from this guy who sell them for 60$ if it's gonna cost you almost exactly the same as buying the Muse edition directly from day 1?! I would rather avoid all this trouble and pay an extra 50$ to get the Muse edition as there is no real money saving at 60 x 6 (-_-)

 

The standard E1 can be bought in Australia for $400-420 AUD, the MUSES edition seems only available on ebay to us at around $1100 AUD.

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