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post #2371 of 3076
Thanks for the impressions DMax. Lately Im a bit disappointed by the smallish soundstage and thinking about going a completely different route.

Gotta think about it for a bit...
post #2372 of 3076
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Originally Posted by DMax99 View Post


Having received my muses01 from Gandah yesterday, this is my first impressions of them:

The vocal with the stock sounds more distant from your ear (to me I first liked it because I thought that make the soundstage sounds bit wider). The vocal on the other hand with the muses01 sounds closer, cleaner and also with much more details. The soundstage is very good too even though I think the stock has a tad more.

Overall I am very happy with it. Is it worth the money? Well if you're going to pay 200+ for them I say NO. But if you can find them under 200 (thanks Gandah ;D) then I say YES. Bevery ccareful with FAKE ones out there though with some of the cheap ones (look at my earlier post here to tell the difference)

Hope this helps a bit wink.gif

Nice one man I'm glad you like themdarthsmile.gif

 

maybe your E1 will become better with soundstage after more time with the muses, all I can say is muses out performed stock and all other combos in every area to my ears anyways

post #2373 of 3076

Thanks for sharing your experience with muses 01.

 

Did you install muses 01 in I/V and LPF sections? Which other op amps were used in the remaining sections?

post #2374 of 3076
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Originally Posted by shyamelge View Post

Thanks for sharing your experience with muses 01.

Did you install muses 01 in I/V and LPF sections? Which other op amps were used in the remaining sections?

Yeah 6x muses01, 4 in I/V and 2 in LPF. The rest arm are all stock. I'm going to swap the stock to the LME49710HA at the 2 headphone output sections (heard good results with them in the previous posts).

I'm going to leave the RCA and XLR sections stock as I don't use it for speakers or balanced headphones. wink.gif

Yeah I agree, muses01 is the best ones atm out of all the op amps I have tried
Edited by DMax99 - 8/2/13 at 9:57pm
post #2375 of 3076

Wait there is more than 6 op amps in there?! I havent opened mine up yet. How many are there?!

post #2376 of 3076

altogether 11 op amps - 6 in I/V and LPF; 3 in XLR/RCA; and 2 in HP section.

 

I have read many comments that the improvement in sound was more noticeable in LPF section than I/V. Does it mean that we could just install 2 pieces of muses01 ($100 or so) and enjoy the better sound?

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Is there any other op amp in the range of $10-20 which could be considered closer to muses01 in performance? There may be a product in this market segment, given the huge price gap between muses01 and others (including 4562/49720). Any idea?

post #2378 of 3076
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Is there any other op amp in the range of $10-20 which could be considered closer to muses01 in performance? There may be a product in this market segment, given the huge price gap between muses01 and others (including 4562/49720). Any idea?

I was told the next best thing was the LM4562NA, which I got for about 15 dollars shipped for 6 pieces. They sounded ok, with more forward vocal, but I prefer the stock over them due to the better soundstage of the stock
post #2379 of 3076
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I was told the next best thing was the LM4562NA, which I got for about 15 dollars shipped for 6 pieces. They sounded ok, with more forward vocal, but I prefer the stock over them due to the better soundstage of the stock

 

So you find the stock 5532 has better soundstage than 4562. Right?

 

Which other op amp offers better soundstage than 5532?

post #2380 of 3076
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So you find the stock 5532 has better soundstage than 4562. Right?

Which other op amp offers better soundstage than 5532?

That's correct, at this stage 5532 has the BEST soundstage to my ear. However, the downside of it is that it makes the vocal sounds a bit distant.

For some reason, I also felt my FAKE muses01 sounded better than the 4562..lol. I wonder which op amp they've used to print the fake logos tongue.gif

In my opinion, keep using the 5532 unless you either prefer the closer vocal sound or decided to upgrade to the genuine muses01 smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by DMax99 - 8/3/13 at 6:38am
post #2381 of 3076
My he400 has been sounding so much better with the new muses01 smily_headphones1.gif Less bright and fatiguing smily_headphones1.gif
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My he400 has been sounding so much better with the new muses01 smily_headphones1.gif Less bright and fatiguing smily_headphones1.gif


Are you using the E1 as the amp too or just the DAC?

post #2383 of 3076
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Are you using the E1 as the amp too or just the DAC?

yeah I am smily_headphones1.gif

It does pretty well for me now and if I want a slight warmer sound I use my Aune T1 though the sound on that is slightly less clear.
Edited by DMax99 - 8/3/13 at 8:15am
post #2384 of 3076
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That's correct, at this stage 5532 has the BEST soundstage to my ear. However, the downside of it is that it makes the vocal sounds a bit distant.

For some reason, I also felt my FAKE muses01 sounded better than the 4562..lol. I wonder which op amp they've used to print the fake logos tongue.gif

In my opinion, keep using the 5532 unless you either prefer the closer vocal sound or decided to upgrade to the genuine muses01 smily_headphones1.gif

 

EI uses 49720 in the headphone section. Did you swap them to 4562 or others to arrive at this above conclusion? Or you only swapped the op amps in I/V and LPF sections? 

 

So if one is interested in forward vocals and mids, then 4562 or other similarly priced op am maybe considered. Right?

 

I have ordered 6 pieces of 4562 and they would arrive early next week. I will check and get back here. 

 

I have also attached E1 to my amplifier and speakers through RCA out. For certain tracks, I have to keep the volume knob close to the maximum or at 3 o' clock. No harm in doing this?

post #2385 of 3076
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Originally Posted by shyamelge View Post

EI uses 49720 in the headphone section. Did you swap them to 4562 or others to arrive at this above conclusion? Or you only swapped the op amps in I/V and LPF sections? 

So if one is interested in forward vocals and mids, then 4562 or other similarly priced op am maybe considered. Right?


I have ordered 6 pieces of 4562 and they would arrive early next week. I will check and get back here. 


I have also attached E1 to my amplifier and speakers through RCA out. For certain tracks, I have to keep the volume knob close to the maximum or at 3 o' clock. No harm in doing this?

I have tried the 4562, 5532 and the fake muses01 in the headphone section. To me they didn't really make much of a difference. I am hoping to get the LME49710HA soon (when I have more money) so I can try them in the headphone section and see if they really sound as good as some have said in the earlier posts. I think there must be a reason why one of the main differences between the ASUS muse version and basic versions are the 6x Muses01 at IV and LPF, maybe they make the most differences to sound?!

Good to hear that you will get to try the 4562 soon, let us know what you think of them compare to the 5532.

I am not too sure about the RCA out for speakers as I don't use my E1 for speakers. However, I have tried it a few times with my speakers and for some reason it does NOT make my speakers very loud??!
Edited by DMax99 - 8/3/13 at 8:32am
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