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post #31 of 91

^ I'm getting the feeling that your perfect set of headphones might be the Denon D7000. From what I've been reading, it basically grabs the what you life of both the Pro900 and the AT's and slabs them together. The only reason I don't consider it for myself is that the bass is supposed to be more tamed when compared to the PRO900 (which I rather not have) x]

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^ I'm getting the feeling that your perfect set of headphones might be the Denon D7000. From what I've been reading, it basically grabs the what you life of both the Pro900 and the AT's and slabs them together. The only reason I don't consider it for myself is that the bass is supposed to be more tamed when compared to the PRO900 (which I rather not have) x]


IMO the Denon is nothing like the AT's at all. The Denon have a "U" shaped curve, meaning they are recessed in the mids. The AT's are if anything more mid centric. I didn't like the D5000's and the D7000's I've heard because I love me some good mids.

 

post #33 of 91
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IMO the Denon is nothing like the AT's at all. The Denon have a "U" shaped curve, meaning they are recessed in the mids. The AT's are if anything more mid centric. I didn't like the D5000's and the D7000's I've heard because I love me some good mids.

 


I'm sorry, I assumed the Denon was better in the mids than the Pro900's, I have never heard them myself though.

 

That does make sense that the mids are more present in the AT's, since you guys have been categorizing the cans as very energetic. I love energetic headphones with forward mids, its definitely fun but I found (in my preference) that they can be fatiguing at times, no?

 

..and here I am contradicting myself, looking for a plentiful of bass, as if that's not fatiguing at all x]

post #34 of 91
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I'm sorry, I assumed the Denon was better in the mids than the Pro900's, I have never heard them myself though.

 

That does make sense that the mids are more present in the AT's, since you guys have been categorizing the cans as very energetic. I love energetic headphones with forward mids, its definitely fun but I found (in my preference) that they can be fatiguing at times, no?

 

..and here I am contradicting myself, looking for a plentiful of bass, as if that's not fatiguing at all x]


I don't find them to be fatiguing at all, but others might. I don't find the RS1's fatiguing at all so I am clearly tolerant to treble/high mids.

 

post #35 of 91
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I'm sorry, I assumed the Denon was better in the mids than the Pro900's, I have never heard them myself though.

 

That does make sense that the mids are more present in the AT's, since you guys have been categorizing the cans as very energetic. I love energetic headphones with forward mids, its definitely fun but I found (in my preference) that they can be fatiguing at times, no?

 

..and here I am contradicting myself, looking for a plentiful of bass, as if that's not fatiguing at all x]



This is why you should only recommend things you've personally used. Just saying. Anyway, the Ad900s are in no way fatiguing. They are actually rather balanced to be honest, the bass is somewhat lacking but unless you're a basshead it should be fine. 

post #36 of 91
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This is why you should only recommend things you've personally used. Just saying. Anyway, the Ad900s are in no way fatiguing. They are actually rather balanced to be honest, the bass is somewhat lacking but unless you're a basshead it should be fine. 



I agree, but I try to be helpful when I can.

 

I always make sure to cite where the information of the headphones in question sourced, whether it being through research or personal use. Everything I say usually always states if it was from my readings or my own personal use, I make sure of it so the reader knows that I have/haven't had any hands on experience.

post #37 of 91
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This is why you should only recommend things you've personally used.


It's the wood, people go ga ga for it!

I'd only recommend Denons to the over 70s and those with two left ears. tongue.gif
post #38 of 91

Or those that LIKE some fun in their sound. Not everyone wants a midcentric curve or a somewhat flat curve. I didn't like the DT880 for music whatsoever, but that doesn't mean they're awful. They're great, just not what I wanted.

 

In any case, the Denon D7000 has STELLAR mids, and shouldn't be placed in the same level of performance to other bass heavy headphones that really push the mids back. The mids are very natural and up front. Yes, the bass and treble is more in focus, but the mids are just SLIGHTLY behind them, and not REALLY behind them.



However, the D7000 and the AD700 really don't sound anywhere near alike. The D7000 is known more as being a more refined Pro 900.

There shouldn't be ANY complaints from those who want some serious bass. I love my bass, and the bass of the D7000 is epic.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/1/11 at 8:21am
post #39 of 91

Like we debated in OP's other thread, different sound signature we prefer will always come down to one thing: music genre.

 

..which is why I'm a little confused about this thread because I thought Katun was mainly a bass-oriented listener based on his previous threads. He preferred D2000 over HD650 because of its bass and energy, then preferred Pro900 over D2000 for even better bass, then all of sudden AD700 comes out of nowhere. It would be nice to see which songs he used to compare the headphones, but imo logical choice would be keeping both AD900 and Pro900 because they rather seem like a good pair of complementary headphones.

post #40 of 91
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Originally Posted by Scytus View Post

^ I'm getting the feeling that your perfect set of headphones might be the Denon D7000. From what I've been reading, it basically grabs the what you life of both the Pro900 and the AT's and slabs them together. The only reason I don't consider it for myself is that the bass is supposed to be more tamed when compared to the PRO900 (which I rather not have) x]

 

Well, when I compared my previous favorite (D2000) with the Pro 900, I remember them both being fantastically good. But I preferred the added bass from the Pro 900, and liked it's darker signature. Otherwise, it was a pretty good toss up. That said, I have no doubt in my mind I would prefer the D7000 over the Pro 900, as I almost preferred the D2000 over the Pro 900.

 

I just wish I could compare the AD900 to the D7000. That would be super interesting.

post #41 of 91

They're undoubtedly polar opposites, both emphasizing different aspects of the sound. It's all up to your own specific preferences.

 

I find comparisons to be better when you're comparing two headphones with the same sonic qualities.


Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/1/11 at 10:54am
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They're undoubtedly oplar opposites, both emphasizing different aspects of the sound. It's all up to your own specific preferences.

 

Yeah, that's what I was about to say, but the Pro 900 is more of a polar opposite than the D2000. It's less energetic, darker, and a bit more closed sounding.
 

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I find comparisons to be better when you're comparing two headphones with the same sonic qualities.

 

Agreed. Although sometimes I feel compelled to compare ones that are completely opposite. It just depends how far up the rank they are with me.


Edited by Katun - 3/1/11 at 2:20pm
post #43 of 91
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Or those that LIKE some fun in their sound. Not everyone wants a midcentric curve or a somewhat flat curve. I didn't like the DT880 for music whatsoever, but that doesn't mean they're awful. They're great, just not what I wanted.

 

 

That's a bit of a generalization don't you think? Fun is subjective. I see "fun" as lots of energy, in-your-face, punchy (Grado/Audio-Technica). The Denons (D5000 and D7000) that I have heard are FAR from that, and are far too relaxed in the mids for me to see them as fun. I'm not questioning the fact that they are fun for you (and many others), because clearly they are, just saying to be careful of the wording.

 

post #44 of 91
Relax, I was just defending the D7000. I'm not over 70, and I don't have two left ears.
post #45 of 91
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Relax, I was just defending the D7000. I'm not over 70, and I don't have two left ears.


Sure, his comment was a silly generalization, but you "defend" the D7000 with then another silly generalization that then makes you look ignorant too? Probably not the right way to go about it. Just sayin'.

 

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