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post #736 of 4815

Well, I'll probably get the LS8 anyways. I know I will be able to hear some differences. But the degree of differences is opinionated. 

 

Im just wondering, Im probably going to use the LS8 everyday walking, taking the bus, gaming, etc.

and all seasons outside. Will the driver or cable break down in the winter? Here, it may go to -20C, and maybe some days -30C.

 

I want it to last a few years even most probably I'll get more customs in the future.


Edited by Mini0510 - 12/1/11 at 7:59am
post #737 of 4815

I have the turbines and going from turbines to even a top tier universal there were huge differences, just imagine how big the difference would be going to top customs....you will be blown away I am sure ;)

 

That is a great question as winder here i also live in cold weather and I too was a bit concerned about this. Last winter I had my IE8s outside at around -20ish and the cables stiffened quite a bit but loosened up immediately after leaving the cold. 

post #738 of 4815

How about the drivers? Will the cold weather in like -20C damage the IEM?

post #739 of 4815

I am not really sure, I had my IE8s out quite a few times and they never had a problem. I am sure you can have it out but it's probably not recommended by any of the manufacturers. But if you keep them in your ears and maybe wear a tuque then as long as they are not directly exposed to the cold weather it shouldn't be a huge issue. The SA43s does have silicone inside them so I think that may protect against the elements a bit more. 

post #740 of 4815
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Originally Posted by Mini0510 View Post

How about the drivers? Will the cold weather in like -20C damage the IEM?



I spoke to Eric from Sonion and he said that driver can handle temperatures even below -50 or so. Remember that when you put IEMs in your ear air inside becomes warmer.

post #741 of 4815

Right, didn't think of that.

Well, cold weather will stiffen the cables, will that reduced the quality of sound?

post #742 of 4815
Thread Starter 

The LS8 has a 2 year warranty and the internal drivers should be fine.  You can always get something like this to help prolong the life of your custom IEM.  As far as cables, I don't have experience with them in very cold weather for extended times, but as the temperature drops, so does the resistivity of the conductors in the cable!

post #743 of 4815

By the way, have you found any reshell services that reshell into silicone?

post #744 of 4815
Thread Starter 

1964 is the only one I know of that does silicone reshells. 

post #745 of 4815

Interesting.

I sent them an email, though they've stopped offering silicone customs normally, so I don't know if they'd still reshell in silicone.

You did note that Spiral Ears does reshells on your IEM company comparison chart though?


I'll add another question here instead of making a new thread -


What would you recommend for an amp+dac if I wanted to use my sensitive IEMs at home? (UM Miracle)

I'm trying to see if I can get something with an output impedance of 1 ohm, if possible. The Miracles have a 16 ohm impedance, and the output of my HM-601 is ~11 ohms and my iBasso D4 is around 9 ohms, because I heard that there could be potential distortion of the FR if the output impedance of my amp is too high.


I'd prefer not to spend a whole lot.


Edited by Kanashimu - 12/3/11 at 6:20pm
post #746 of 4815

Fiio dac/amps has one of the lowest output impedance below 1 Ohm.

post #747 of 4815

 

IMG_7239.jpg

 

Ok Here it is. Some impressions of EM3 PRO (down) and JH 16 (up). It's a bad camera, so I neither the artwork can be seen clearly. Sorry :) I sent back my EM3 PRO for a cable problem. Got them back last friday. 

 

Really love the sound of EM3 PRO. It's warm, liquid, organic. And it sounds fuller than JH16. It doesnt sound as fast as JH16, doesn't have the bass impact of JH16. JH 16 has more micro details and larger soundstage (a bit compressed like joe said). Actually I never really believe in cable surgery before. I can easily notice the difference this time when I listen to my EM3 with Whiplash Cable. The stock cable make EM3 sounds a bit dark for me.  Whiplash Cable really adds more air and space into the sound and make it a bit more bright and clearer, so they just sound right to my ears. I can listen to it at any volume I want without any hearing any sibilance. On the other hand, JH 16 has really airy and bright highs, so it sounds really harsh at high volume that I cannot bear (kind of makes my ear bleed *_*). But JH 16 has more resolution, more details. good space (with Whiplash Cable). I can't say which one I prefer. But for high volume listening, I definitely choose EM3 since it's simply easier to listen to with that more liquid, warm sound.

 
 
 
 

Edited by tupac0306 - 12/4/11 at 7:50am
post #748 of 4815

i've bought a livewirez T1 from another member is that the same as livewirez dual? and is this one on your wish list any time soon: http://www.alienears.com/products/221-sq5-five-driver-detachable-crd-mitr.aspx ?

post #749 of 4815

joe is it just me or does the SA43s with both bass and presence switch on sound almost identical to both the switches off but just a bit louder? I did volume matching on those settings and I can barely tell a difference. 

post #750 of 4815
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by Kanashimu View Post

Interesting.

I sent them an email, though they've stopped offering silicone customs normally, so I don't know if they'd still reshell in silicone.

You did note that Spiral Ears does reshells on your IEM company comparison chart though?


I'll add another question here instead of making a new thread -


What would you recommend for an amp+dac if I wanted to use my sensitive IEMs at home? (UM Miracle)

I'm trying to see if I can get something with an output impedance of 1 ohm, if possible. The Miracles have a 16 ohm impedance, and the output of my HM-601 is ~11 ohms and my iBasso D4 is around 9 ohms, because I heard that there could be potential distortion of the FR if the output impedance of my amp is too high.


I'd prefer not to spend a whole lot.


I am not sure about 1964 and silicone, but they are the last that I know of.  Spiral Ear doesn't do it from what I know at the moment as they are very busy with orders for their custom IEMs, so I should change my manufacturers page.

 

I have not measured the output impedance of the amps I am testing, but the Neco Soundlabs amp has a great price/performance ratio and work well with just about every custom IEM I have, but you have to let Neco know you want to use it with high sensitivity custom IEMs so he can make the necessary changes.  The Pico Slim is another great choice and was specifically designed for high sensitivity custom IEMs.  I don't recall, does the 601 have a line out as maybe you can just use an external amp and benefit from the quality of the internal DAC?  I like the Furutech Cruise (and they have a cheaper version without the carbon fiber outside) as it has both a great amp and DAC section, however there is a slight amount of hiss with high sensitivity custom IEMs.  Nothing like the Hisoundaudio products, but there with my JH16 and NT6.  I am not sure how sensitive the Miracle is in comparison.


 

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Originally Posted by piotrus-g View Post

Fiio dac/amps has one of the lowest output impedance below 1 Ohm.


Not to say the Fiio amps are not great, but I have not been impressed with the dynamics of the ones I have heard, and high end custom IEMs bring out the issues more than lower end IEMs IMO.


 

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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

 

IMG_7239.jpg

 

Ok Here it is. Some impressions of EM3 PRO (down) and JH 16 (up). It's a bad camera, so I neither the artwork can be seen clearly. Sorry :) I sent back my EM3 PRO for a cable problem. Got them back last friday. 

 

Really love the sound of EM3 PRO. It's warm, liquid, organic. And it sounds fuller than JH16. It doesnt sound as fast as JH16, doesn't have the bass impact of JH16. JH 16 has more micro details and larger soundstage (a bit compressed like joe said). Actually I never really believe in cable surgery before. I can easily notice the difference this time when I listen to my EM3 with Whiplash Cable. The stock cable make EM3 sounds a bit dark for me.  Whiplash Cable really adds more air and space into the sound and make it a bit more bright and clearer, so they just sound right to my ears. I can listen to it at any volume I want without any hearing any sibilance. On the other hand, JH 16 has really airy and bright highs, so it sounds really harsh at high volume that I cannot bear (kind of makes my ear bleed *_*). But JH 16 has more resolution, more details. good space (with Whiplash Cable). I can't say which one I prefer. But for high volume listening, I definitely choose EM3 since it's simply easier to listen to with that more liquid, warm sound.

 
 
 
 


Thanks for the comparison, and yet, the TWag cable does help both of those custom IEMs IMO.  When I play tracks with good 3D space I notice a significant improvement in the JH16 with the TWag and the EM3 Pro benefits all the time!  But, the EM3 Pro still has better depth no matter what.


 

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Originally Posted by Majin View Post

i've bought a livewirez T1 from another member is that the same as livewirez dual? and is this one on your wish list any time soon: http://www.alienears.com/products/221-sq5-five-driver-detachable-crd-mitr.aspx ?


No, this is not the same.  The companies split and Livewires retained the design from my understanding.  Some day, but from what I have read the tuning isn't quite as good as some of the other competition out there, but of course I will reserve judgement until I hear them.


 

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Originally Posted by rangerid View Post

joe is it just me or does the SA43s with both bass and presence switch on sound almost identical to both the switches off but just a bit louder? I did volume matching on those settings and I can barely tell a difference. 


 

With test tones, no.  How did you run the comparison; test tones, frequency sweep, music, etc?

 

With the bass switch on the bass goes deeper and there is a slight tonal change in the mid-bass and when the presence switch is on the mids are more forward than the treble.

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