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post #511 of 4815

Hey joe, reading from your's and other's impressions, do you think it's better to upgrade the my source (iphone 4 and clip+) or to buy a amp to go with the iphone? I can't afford another 700 on the 801 so would adding an amp suffice? 

post #512 of 4815
sorry to hijack this thread with my question, but this is probably my best bet.

I am trying to get parts to build a cable for UM IEM's with recessed jacks.

do any of you know if those particular connectors are the same size or compatible with any other IEM's??
or
do any of you know what connectors that will work or where to get UM recessed jacks, or even connectors that could be slightly altered to fit?

thanks
post #513 of 4815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rangerid View Post

Hey joe, reading from your's and other's impressions, do you think it's better to upgrade the my source (iphone 4 and clip+) or to buy a amp to go with the iphone? I can't afford another 700 on the 801 so would adding an amp suffice? 

 

I would recommend just buying a LOD and amp to start. I will be reviewing several amps in the near future, but a used Arrow may suffice fine, at least for the time being.

 

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Originally Posted by Br777 View Post

sorry to hijack this thread with my question, but this is probably my best bet.
I am trying to get parts to build a cable for UM IEM's with recessed jacks.
do any of you know if those particular connectors are the same size or compatible with any other IEM's??
or
do any of you know what connectors that will work or where to get UM recessed jacks, or even connectors that could be slightly altered to fit?
thanks


You may get a better answer to your question in the Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum), and you can post the question in my thread here if you want.

post #514 of 4815
as usual Stephen at UM is super fast in his response and told me that they basically custom make them, and b/c of the process it takes to assemble them, they aren't able to sell a finished connector. oh well.. i'm sick of making cables anyway...
post #515 of 4815
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

 

Yes, I am imagining the sound signature of the JH-3A is similar to that of the JH13/JH16 which is fairly different than that of the LCD-2.  And the reason I asked about the description is because I have heard many high end customs and feel they all offer excellent bass and extension, smooth and lush sound, etc, basically amazing sound.  Balanced is a funny audiophile term as your balanced may not be my (or anyone else's) balanced.  I do feel the LCD-2 V1 is on the warmer side of neutral and slightly on the darker side while the JH16 is on the brighter side and pretty close to neutral as far as warmth.  Someday, hopefully, I will hear my own Miracle so I really know but at the moment I have a lot of other reviews on my plate. 

I am not surprised as I find the sound out of the touch to be similar but more colored than my iPhone and the iPhone 4 I have listened to.  Here is my iPhone source matching write-up from my review:

 

 

 

The iPhone & Sa-43 is one of the worst combinations I have heard.  And is it the added bass boost on the SA-43, or the player?  And yes, the high end customs all make the Ety's sound thin, lacking soundstage depth, and bass to my, lol.


Its with the added boost throught the switch, and through the Fostex with digi filter 1.

 

Im not a basshead (Anymore), and i dont like the extra bassrumble the switch gives me right now, and it took me by surprice that the bass was so full with the switch on...

 

On another note my left ear is still making problems, because i have pressure buildup that hasnt subsided... :(

 

My note about i need a neutral setup, if the Fostex is one of the more neutral portables, then i might need to look further, and i have a problem finding other daps that i can relate to, if i go for a portable amp and source.

 

I still havnt got a tax bill, so i payed 5800nok/1115$ including shipment.. :)

 

 

 

post #516 of 4815

 

Hi audiophiles

 

I am looking for the best custom IEM.

 

Hi, I currently own the monster turbine pro copper.

 

I listen to a lot of rock and some hip pop music. Personally, I think Monster products just have a lot of bass, including the copper. I alway use treble booster as my EQ. AND I'm still not satisfied with the treble. I guess I prefer harsh treble. The treble for copper is alot better than the original and gold, but it is still no where near the Sony MDR-EX1000. I love the treble on high end Sonys. But the bass is a bit weak. Bose quiet and comfort 15 sound very nice and detailed. The placement of the instruments is excellent. I guess these descriptions gives you can idea what I'm expecting.


My standards are as follows:

 

1. Best bass in on the market. Strong, controlled punchy, but should not have more bass than copper. but a little more than Sonys for example EX1000

2. Very Clear mid and highs so the bass doesn't cover everything up. Slight harsh treble like Sonys preferably.

3. Excellent good sound stage.

4. Noise cancelling should be decent. But most high end earphone are ok with that part.

6. Price - lets just not worry about that right now! :)

 

 

I have nailed down to a few but I really can't choose which one is the best for me. From the descriptions above, should I get a neutral or a warmer IEM?

 

1. Rooth LS8

2. UE18

3. JH13 Pro

4. UM Miracle

 

Did I miss out on any good IEMs? 

Anyone who has own any of these, please provide your thoughts and comparisons.

Any other recommendations will be highly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

post #517 of 4815

"Bose quiet and comfort 15 sound very nice and detailed."

 

I've never been a fan of their headphones...presentation is 2D-like, even my DBA-02s which for me is slightly inferior on presentation now compared to my other iems, is still better than the Bose headphones. They sounded unnatural for my ears. Sorry, but it's just me.

post #518 of 4815
Thread Starter 

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Originally Posted by Hemshemems View Post

Its with the added boost throught the switch, and through the Fostex with digi filter 1.

 

Im not a basshead (Anymore), and i dont like the extra bassrumble the switch gives me right now, and it took me by surprice that the bass was so full with the switch on...

 

On another note my left ear is still making problems, because i have pressure buildup that hasnt subsided... :(

 

My note about i need a neutral setup, if the Fostex is one of the more neutral portables, then i might need to look further, and i have a problem finding other daps that i can relate to, if i go for a portable amp and source.

 

I still havnt got a tax bill, so i payed 5800nok/1115$ including shipment.. :)

 

That makes some sense since I felt the opposite when listening to IEMs like the CK10 and ER4S in comparison with most of my top tier custom IEMs...the difference in the amount of bass recreated can be fairly large.  However, I can adjust over time.

 

There are lower cost HiFiMan DAPs, but I don't know how they perform together.  I did try my iPhone with an amp and it is much more dynamic with better attack/decay and everything is more clearly defined.  Although the DAC output is still lower quality than that of my modded iPod or the 801, but the amp does improve things significantly IMO.  I am not sure how the 601/602 will perform or the Colorfly players, but they may be options if the Fostex doesn't work out.  Unfortunately the Studio V (with the armature firmware) wasn't all that impressive and not as good as the iPhone -> amp (uHA-120).  

 

So if I understand you correctly, are you having issues with air pressure or with the canal putting pressure on your ear?  If it is air pressure you can relieve it by pulling up on the top of your ear and making a yawning motion.  If it is canal pressure you can try lubricant on the canal, but if it is too large you may have to send them back for a refit or have a local audiologist shave them down a bit.  Or, you may get used to them.  I notice my ear canal size changes slightly from time to time and what was once a perfect fit can be a little tight/loose but it usually changes back.  Lubricant helps fix most issues and over time a layer of lubricant will form on the shell.  I hope that helps and let me know if you have any questions.

 

 
post #519 of 4815
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

 

That makes some sense since I felt the opposite when listening to IEMs like the CK10 and ER4S in comparison with most of my top tier custom IEMs...the difference in the amount of bass recreated can be fairly large.  However, I can adjust over time.

 

There are lower cost HiFiMan DAPs, but I don't know how they perform together.  I did try my iPhone with an amp and it is much more dynamic with better attack/decay and everything is more clearly defined.  Although the DAC output is still lower quality than that of my modded iPod or the 801, but the amp does improve things significantly IMO.  I am not sure how the 601/602 will perform or the Colorfly players, but they may be options if the Fostex doesn't work out.  Unfortunately the Studio V (with the armature firmware) wasn't all that impressive and not as good as the iPhone -> amp (uHA-120).  

 

So if I understand you correctly, are you having issues with air pressure or with the canal putting pressure on your ear?  If it is air pressure you can relieve it by pulling up on the top of your ear and making a yawning motion.  If it is canal pressure you can try lubricant on the canal, but if it is too large you may have to send them back for a refit or have a local audiologist shave them down a bit.  Or, you may get used to them.  I notice my ear canal size changes slightly from time to time and what was once a perfect fit can be a little tight/loose but it usually changes back.  Lubricant helps fix most issues and over time a layer of lubricant will form on the shell.  I hope that helps and let me know if you have any questions.

 

I havnt tried the daps by hifiman, but if the sound signature is too dark as i read on reviews, then its not for me...

 

Colorfly and Hisound seem to build nice players, but the sq and features should be more refined..

 

I know i have to get used to fit and sound of my Starkey, as of now its the right ear that still hurts a bit because of fit, and the left ear is fine in fit, but i have problems getting the pressure out when i go and come home from work while travelling by plane, on top of that the flu had me lying in bed all last night..

 

I've done all the motions, and sometimes i get the pressure out, sometimes it takes days to go away, also been at the ear-doc but they havnt got time for me right now..

 

Its a bit annoying that i cant judge my gear right now, as my pressure buildup ruins it for me right now too...

 

 

 

 


Edited by Hemshemems - 10/3/11 at 11:21pm
post #520 of 4815

Joe!

Earsonics em4 has arrived!

You know what i mean.

post #521 of 4815

^Demn! Hey There Big Bro!biggrin.gif

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Edited by dogears - 10/4/11 at 9:13am
post #522 of 4815
R
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemshemems View Post

I havnt tried the daps by hifiman, but if the sound signature is too dark as i read on reviews, then its not for me...

 

Colorfly and Hisound seem to build nice players, but the sq and features should be more refined..

 

I know i have to get used to fit and sound of my Starkey, as of now its the right ear that still hurts a bit because of fit, and the left ear is fine in fit, but i have problems getting the pressure out when i go and come home from work while travelling by plane, on top of that the flu had me lying in bed all last night..

 

I've done all the motions, and sometimes i get the pressure out, sometimes it takes days to go away, also been at the ear-doc but they havnt got time for me right now..

 

Its a bit annoying that i cant judge my gear right now, as my pressure buildup ruins it for me right now too...

 

 

 

 


I don't find the HiFiMan players dark at all. The 602 has a slightly rolled off treble, but nothing to worry about except if your iems treble is rolled off considerably. It does have a little hiss with sensitive iems. The 801 with GAME card/hp-amp is quite another story, but it's 790$. To my ears it has a little bass boost, which might be a problem if your iems has too much ... Either HiFiMan DAP has a warm, musical sound and compares well to full size cd players of high standards.
post #523 of 4815
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

R
I don't find the HiFiMan players dark at all. The 602 has a slightly rolled off treble, but nothing to worry about except if your iems treble is rolled off considerably. It does have a little hiss with sensitive iems. The 801 with GAME card/hp-amp is quite another story, but it's 790$. To my ears it has a little bass boost, which might be a problem if your iems has too much ... Either HiFiMan DAP has a warm, musical sound and compares well to full size cd players of high standards.


It depends on what you want. If you want a very smooth analog-like sound with emphasis on the mids and bass get the 601, the 602 is even more laid back (or warmer and also has a NOS DAC). If you like your music with a lot of treble extension and love digital sound, get the sflo2/Telcast T51.

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Originally Posted by dogears View Post

^Demn! Hey There Big Bro!biggrin.gif

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Ah crap....there goes my list of what customs to consider again....tongue.gif

post #525 of 4815
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemshemems View Post

I havnt tried the daps by hifiman, but if the sound signature is too dark as i read on reviews, then its not for me...

 

Colorfly and Hisound seem to build nice players, but the sq and features should be more refined..

 

I know i have to get used to fit and sound of my Starkey, as of now its the right ear that still hurts a bit because of fit, and the left ear is fine in fit, but i have problems getting the pressure out when i go and come home from work while travelling by plane, on top of that the flu had me lying in bed all last night..

 

I've done all the motions, and sometimes i get the pressure out, sometimes it takes days to go away, also been at the ear-doc but they havnt got time for me right now..

 

Its a bit annoying that i cant judge my gear right now, as my pressure buildup ruins it for me right now too...


I hope your ears go back to normal and you can start to evaluate your gear soon...

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gastronomic View Post

Joe!

Earsonics em4 has arrived!

You know what i mean.


Yet another possibly great custom IEM...

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

R
I don't find the HiFiMan players dark at all. The 602 has a slightly rolled off treble, but nothing to worry about except if your iems treble is rolled off considerably. It does have a little hiss with sensitive iems. The 801 with GAME card/hp-amp is quite another story, but it's 790$. To my ears it has a little bass boost, which might be a problem if your iems has too much ... Either HiFiMan DAP has a warm, musical sound and compares well to full size cd players of high standards.


Yes, the HiFiMan players can sound very musical and not dark or warm, it just depends on the actual synergy between the DAP and headphone.  

 

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