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Originally Posted by Rollk2 View Post

Arf it depends, sometimes mids on h8pro are more forward than on EM32 but EM32 are more powerful. SE5 could be a good choice as they seem to convey power effortless

 

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Originally Posted by shakur1996 View Post
 


IMO SE 5ways Reference totally fits marcusdb requirements, except for his reservation that the doesn't like dark sound phones.

 

BTW, Harmony 8 Pro are more mid recessed than EM32???

 

H8P is a lot more forward at lower-treble region (5000-7000 Hz), leading to a slightly recessed upper mid (2000-4000 Hz), while EM32 is much linear from 2000-9000 Hz to my ears, creating a more of a coherent sound, and presentation. 

 

So which is more forward? depends on what you like. Generally speaking EM32 is more laid back, and H8P is more forward (specially string instruments). But for vocals, I would say EM32 is more evolving. Relatively speaking, H8P is shaper/edgier, but EM32 sounds like it has more grains.

 

In terms of power, EM32 > SE5 = H8P. But SE5 is really good at creating sub-bass impact~

post #4397 of 4406

Clear Tune Monitors CT-500 puts the vocals front and center and leans towards analytical.

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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post
 

 

 

H8P is a lot more forward at lower-treble region (5000-7000 Hz), leading to a slightly recessed upper mid (2000-4000 Hz), while EM32 is much linear from 2000-9000 Hz to my ears, creating a more of a coherent sound, and presentation. 

 

So which is more forward? depends on what you like. Generally speaking EM32 is more laid back, and H8P is more forward (specially string instruments). But for vocals, I would say EM32 is more evolving. Relatively speaking, H8P is shaper/edgier, but EM32 sounds like it has more grains.

 

In terms of power, EM32 > SE5 = H8P. But SE5 is really good at creating sub-bass impact~

In case anyone's wondering

 

Oh and BTW. 5-7kHz is not lower treble - it's just treble

lower treble could be something from around 2kHz to 4kHz

upper mids are range of 800-1,5kHz

 

That's probably why you cannot agree on sound with @shakur1996 

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frequency-bands.jpg

http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/frequency_ranges.htm


Edited by piotrus-g - Yesterday at 10:29 am
post #4399 of 4406

LOL. I honestly disagree with you Peter (and you know this) as to the "distribution" of frequency between bass, mids and treble:D.

 

I'm basing my division of the frequencies on the chart available at this address: http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm

 

Subbass - up to 60 Hz

Bass - 60 to 250 Hz

Mids - 250 Hz to 4 kHz

Upper Mids - 4 khz to 6 kHz

Treble - 6 kHz to 20 kHz

post #4400 of 4406
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Originally Posted by piotrus-g View Post
 

In case anyone's wondering

 

Oh and BTW. 5-7kHz is not lower treble - it's just treble

lower treble could be something from around 2kHz to 4kHz

upper mids are range of 800-1,5kHz

 

That's probably why you cannot agree on sound with @shakur1996 

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frequency-bands.jpg

http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/frequency_ranges.htm

:eek:

 

For such a long time, I thought it was this..

 

post #4401 of 4406
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:eek:

 

For such a long time, I thought it was this..

 

Yes, but this also says your hearing is not extending past 16kHz. ;)

 

The range definition I posted is pretty much consistent with what sound engineers use.

post #4402 of 4406

Hmm...Peter look at the chart below the table and it is presenting somehow contradicting info i.e. at the down of this chart the bass line goes from 0 Hz to 250 Hz, midrange line goes from 250 Hz to around 7 kHz, but the treble line goes from 1 kHz to 20 kHz (and not from the end of midrange line). Actually the chart is consistent with the chart which was linked by me. 

post #4403 of 4406
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Originally Posted by shakur1996 View Post
 

Hmm...Peter look at the chart below the table and it is presenting somehow contradicting info i.e. at the down of this chart the bass line goes from 0 Hz to 250 Hz, midrange line goes from 250 Hz to around 7 kHz, but the treble line goes from 1 kHz to 20 kHz (and not from the end of midrange line). Actually the chart is consistent with the chart which was linked by me. 

I think this chart is for ranges of speakers - notice woofer and tweeter in brackets. So called "midrange" speaker will typically cover 7kHz w/o problems. But typically in speakers tweeters are cut around 1-3kHz, in IEMs it's slightly different as drivers are typically more "fullrange" than actually tweeter, so you can have them cut at 1kHz and at 10kHz depending on your needs.

7kHz is by no means mid-range.

It would be logical to use vocals for midrange definition. typical male voice have fundamental note at 120-150Hz, female around 200Hz and child around 250Hz - upper notes you can articulate are probably not higher than 2kHz, we are not talking about harmonics though.

post #4404 of 4406
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Originally Posted by shakur1996 View Post
 


IMO SE 5ways Reference totally fits marcusdb requirements, except for his reservation that the doesn't like dark sound phones.

 

 

 

Which is pretty major, IMHO...

post #4405 of 4406
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

Which is pretty major, IMHO...

If SE5way functions correctly it is not that dark seriously. Unless there is a problem with tweeters or something, I wouldn't call it dark. It has a very black background and treble notes shines softly through this dark background. The whole dark, silent and quiet background gives a feeling like the SE5way sounds dark but actually (to my ears) it is not really dark. In treble some regions are quite forward and has an impact while some other regions are quite softer. I am not sure how to call it but it can be described as colored I suppose?

post #4406 of 4406

Thanks again for the responses. I've just realised there was a mistake in my message. I meant the Noble Audio 4S and not 5S...

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