Originally Posted by Andreas2402
I don't quite understand the sound of SE-5. On the one hand, you say they're never bright and a little like LCD-2. On the other hand, you mentioned that it doesn't have a sound signature.
I had HD 600, HD 650 (= close to LCD-2??), UE 900, K 701, DT 880, ATH M50. They all have sound signatures.
UE 900 has veil, too small & flat soundstage.
HD 600 sounded very nice: non-fatiguing, but soundstage width was missing
HD 650 sounded like it wasnt able to output high frequency, a little bass heavy.
K 701 too much high-mid frequency, wide soundstage without depth and hole in the middle of soundstage.
ATH M50 treble = harsh, recessed mids, punchy
DT 880 = sharp S, lots of treble, mids recessed
IERM = as you stated: unforgiving when playing poor recordings, flat response
(I have a low impendance-amp and a CD Player)
So, if the HD 650 didnt have enough treble, will the SE-5 disappoint me?
I mentioned the sound signature is more difficult to pinpoint than with other headphones/CIEMs due to the ability of the SE5 to adjust note weight (PRaT) better than others, but it does have a sound signature. I have spent hours listening to the SE5 with multiple sources and tracks ranging from classical to EDM to pop to rock to country and more, and as the mastering of the tracks change, so does the sound of the SE5, much more so than most headphones/CIEMs I own. When comparing with other CIEMs using random tracks, the changes are readily apparent as one song will be brighter or more mid-forward with the SE5, than another track will be the opposite. However, in general, the SE5 is on the warmer and darker side of things. To answer your question, I would say most likely yes.
Originally Posted by JohannLiebert
Thanks for the Writeup?
Could you pls pick the 3 CIEMs with greatest Soundstage and Imaging? :)
From what I have heard, the M-Fidelity (foremerly Starkey) SA-43 is #1 (and the EarPower EP10 Plus is up there also if you want an alien looking open CIEM). As for the next two, it really depends on the source and track. For example, the SE5 sounds extremely spacious with the Anedio D1 and well recorded/mastered 24 bit live tracks, but the UM PP6 on average is more spacious. The UE PRM is right there also, as is the NT-6 pro. There are several that are a small step down.
Originally Posted by Deviltooth
I've read every review of CIEMs I could find over the last year and a half. In that time the most consistently comprehensive useful and comparative reviews have come from Average Joe. He takes his time to offer sage advice and post a plethora of useful knowledge in the threads he starts.
It's also good to read the dissenting opinions. That's provided the dissenting opinions are thoughtful, intelligently presented and don't arise from what seems like a personal agenda or conflict.
More information, less making it personal please.
Thank you and I agree.