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post #3226 of 4815
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post

Well, Spiral Ear is already offering replecable cable

So does Sensaphonics. But both companies make a hole in the silicone shell and, from the feedback I read, changing the cable becomes a delicate operation you don't want to repeat too often.
post #3227 of 4815
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Originally Posted by Sinocelt View Post


So does Sensaphonics. But both companies make a hole in the silicone shell and, from the feedback I read, changing the cable becomes a delicate operation you don't want to repeat too often.

Wow, nice hint Sinocelt, thank you. I will keep it in my mind and not to play with cable unless it is really necesarry.

post #3228 of 4815

I don't know - the Sensaphonics solution seems pretty robust. It's basically like the Shure connection, that snaps in place with a confidence-inspiring <click!>, but the contact point is buried inside the silicone. The shell makes a tight seal around the cable as it inserts, and the whole things feels like it could be done many times (barring any buffoonery of course). 

post #3229 of 4815
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post  <click!>

 

Click with an exclamation mark, no less! wink.gif

post #3230 of 4815

Sensaphonics does, in fact, use the same type connector (coaxial) as Shure on the cable for our 3MAX, 2MAX and 2X-S models. It provides a secure connection, yet can be fully rotated. Our cable is slightly different in length and stiffness (vs. Shure) and incorporates a strain relief collar clip. The goal was to have a connection that is both very secure (no accidental disconnects) yet easily field replaceable.

 

Our customer base is roughly 90% touring musicians and audio techs, and trust me, they would not accept anything less than a robust, reliable solution for life on the road.

post #3231 of 4815
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Originally Posted by JackKontney View Post

Our customer base is roughly 90% touring musicians and audio techs, and trust me, they would not accept anything less than a robust, reliable solution for life on the road.

 

I believe it. While not quite as flexible as the typical braided cables used by most other brands, the Sensaphonics cable has got to be the most durable of any CIEM I've experienced. 

post #3232 of 4815
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Originally Posted by JackKontney View Post

Sensaphonics does, in fact, use the same type connector (coaxial) as Shure on the cable for our 3MAX, 2MAX and 2X-S models. It provides a secure connection, yet can be fully rotated. Our cable is slightly different in length and stiffness (vs. Shure) and incorporates a strain relief collar clip. The goal was to have a connection that is both very secure (no accidental disconnects) yet easily field replaceable.

Our customer base is roughly 90% touring musicians and audio techs, and trust me, they would not accept anything less than a robust, reliable solution for life on the road.
  1. I made a mistake: It wasn't Sensaphonics I was thinking about, but ACS. Sorry, I should have checked (as I just did) rather than trust my memory.
  2. Your connector has changed since I last visited your (Sensaphonics's) website. Last time I had a look, the connector was outside, on the faceplate, and rectangular. (If I can trust my memory, this time!)
post #3233 of 4815

That's correct, Sinocelt. Formerly, a small acrylic block held the leads, and was held in place by a nylon screw. Very reliable, but a bit of a pain to replace in a poorly lit backstage area. We still use this type of connector on the 3D Active Ambient (which would require a quadaxial connector to carry the ambient mic info along with the monitor feed).

 

After considerable testing, we went to coaxial cables for 3MAX, 2MAX, and 2X-S around February/March of 2012.

 

You are also correct that the ACS cable connectors are proprietary. I haven't experienced them.


Edited by JackKontney - 7/19/13 at 10:19am
post #3234 of 4815
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Originally Posted by JackKontney View Post

After considerable testing, we went to coaxial cables for 3MAX, 2MAX, and 2X-S around February/March of 2012.

The pictures on your website are really small. The picture in this PDF (also from your website) is much clearer, for anyone here curious to have a look. For those who'd like to compare with ACS's solution, click here for high-resolution pictures, courtesy of average_joe.
post #3235 of 4815

OK so it seems I'm cursed when it come to customs :)  Not the minervas which are still doing fine but one of my original reshells picture below :-

 

 

That's a shot of my infamous right ear, the one that's given me all the hassle.  In it more or less is a klipsch x10i reshelled.   Only it isn't!  Apparantly what it is is a dba02/b2 twfk clone of some description.  Below for everyone who understands these things is the graph that I had done :-

 

 So someone somewhere out there has a b2/dba2 reshell that's actually a klipsch!  Sorry about that if you happen to read this post :)  I'm not too upset as I have already had a refund over the various fit issues, but I'm still irritated that even if the fit had been sorted it wouldn't have been the same iem that I had sent in, coupled with the fact they went back at least 3 times to be sorted.

post #3236 of 4815
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post  OK so it seems I'm cursed when it come to customs :)

 

Definitely seems like one of those freak accidents --- it's indeed hard to picture how they could screw it up so badly, especially when they used the original cable. Frankly, it's a bit baffling.

 

Unless, of course, they accidentally damaged the BA when soldering (it happens) and assumed you couldn't tell the difference between the two?

post #3237 of 4815

I can see davidcotton's direction changing, towards to universal fit iems. That mate has so many bad/sour memories about customs. Even makes me sad.

post #3238 of 4815
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Originally Posted by Sinocelt View Post


The pictures on your website are really small. The picture in this PDF (also from your website) is much clearer, for anyone here curious to have a look. For those who'd like to compare with ACS's solution, click here for high-resolution pictures, courtesy of average_joe.

 

Here are a couple photos of the Sensaphonics coaxial connector design. As you can see, it is embedded pretty deeply within the silicone. FYI, we also use an O-ring to provide added moisture resistance - pretty important for certain performers on stage.

 

 

 

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post #3239 of 4815

So it should be pretty easy to find aftermarket cables for Sensaphonics ciems. I also like the design and features of it.

post #3240 of 4815
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Originally Posted by JackKontney View Post

 

Here are a couple photos of the Sensaphonics coaxial connector design. As you can see, it is embedded pretty deeply within the silicone. FYI, we also use an O-ring to provide added moisture resistance - pretty important for certain performers on stage.

 

Out of curiosity, would it be safe to assume the coaxial connection doesn't too easily swivel,or more realistically flop around, like it does on Shure iems?

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