Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Multi-Custom In-Ear Monitor Review, Resource, Mfg List & Discussion (Check first post for review links & information)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Multi-Custom In-Ear Monitor Review, Resource, Mfg List & Discussion (Check first post for review... - Page 162

post #2416 of 4092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotnijoe View Post

 

hey Joe. Sorry let me clarify. What i meant was that i was considering purchasing a JH13 still in a the JH Audio shell. But since the reshell would be done by a different company like unique melody, would there be some level of difference in the sound?

 

also there doesnt happen to be a UM office in North america is there...

I think average_joe was exactly spot on. There's no way you might know - you cannot cram the original earpieces into your ears without reshelling, and because of that you cannot get an idea of what the original sound signature is like, thus no base for comparison with the sound signature of the pair after reshelling.

 

To my knowledge, the company doing the reshelling does not merely take out the drivers and put them in the moulds and call that a day. They do measure the frequencies pre and post and do try to match them as closely as possible. Of course, frequencies alone do not tell the whole story, but at least there's something for them to work with. UM and JHA both use acrylic shells on their CIEMs, so my 2 cent is that normally the sonic difference would be negligible.

post #2417 of 4092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotnijoe View Post


also there doesnt happen to be a UM office in North america is there...

Suggest you get in touch with Stephen Guo

http://custom-iem.com/
post #2418 of 4092
Quote:
Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

I don't think that would sound like the R-50 anymore...


If it's really sounds like R-50 then it wouldn't be an upgrade. I used R-50 as a base point to help anyone understand the sound signature i like. Sorry if it confused you tongue.gif

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

 

The NT-6 bass is neutral, fast and articulate, however it is also powerful when necessary and has an impressive amount of note sustainment when a track calls for it.  While the sound signature will be similar to the R-50, you also get a robust bottom end that, in contrast to TWFK IEMs, can sound bass heavy, but it is actually the lack of capability with the TWFK.  The Lear LCM-5 also has a similar sound signature, but not quite as bright, detailed, or capable in the low end as the NT-6.

 

Thank you so much!

I'm already addicted to R-50's treble extension and if LCM-5 couldn't do that much, I'm sure i'll be disappointed =(

Now I only have to wait for someone to compare the C-4 to NT-6.

This is somehow, a rare match up...

post #2419 of 4092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotnijoe View Post

 

hey Joe. Sorry let me clarify. What i meant was that i was considering purchasing a JH13 still in a the JH Audio shell. But since the reshell would be done by a different company like unique melody, would there be some level of difference in the sound?

 

also there doesnt happen to be a UM office in North america is there...

I think he means the sound MAY change, especially the JH13 Freqphase version lately imo.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spen Javer View Post


If it's really sounds like R-50 then it wouldn't be an upgrade. I used R-50 as a base point to help anyone understand the sound signature i like. Sorry if it confused you tongue.gif

 

 

 

Thank you so much!

I'm already addicted to R-50's treble extension and if LCM-5 couldn't do that much, I'm sure i'll be disappointed =(

Now I only have to wait for someone to compare the C-4 to NT-6.

This is somehow, a rare match up...

I think joe haven't mentioned about the treble extension about the LCM-5 tho?


Edited by IAmSoCheap - 1/2/13 at 10:14pm
post #2420 of 4092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spen Javer View Post


If it's really sounds like R-50 then it wouldn't be an upgrade. I used R-50 as a base point to help anyone understand the sound signature i like. Sorry if it confused you tongue.gif
I know, I'm just chokin' your chain wink.gif
post #2421 of 4092
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by randomkid View Post

Just got my Alclair reference monitor, amazing, fit was better on left ear, right ear just needed a little clear nail polish to thicken them up. Sound wise too early to tell but impressed by my first custom. I got the pelican case with them and they were a bargain at $330 with custom artwork. I shall review them at some point, thaks for helping me pick my first custom, very satisfied

 

Congrats on your first CIEM.  I am glad to hear you like it, which model did you get, the Duals or Duals XB?

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotnijoe View Post

hey Joe. Sorry let me clarify. What i meant was that i was considering purchasing a JH13 still in a the JH Audio shell. But since the reshell would be done by a different company like unique melody, would there be some level of difference in the sound?

 

also there doesnt happen to be a UM office in North america is there...

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3nenbgumi View Post

I think average_joe was exactly spot on. There's no way you might know - you cannot cram the original earpieces into your ears without reshelling, and because of that you cannot get an idea of what the original sound signature is like, thus no base for comparison with the sound signature of the pair after reshelling.

 

To my knowledge, the company doing the reshelling does not merely take out the drivers and put them in the moulds and call that a day. They do measure the frequencies pre and post and do try to match them as closely as possible. Of course, frequencies alone do not tell the whole story, but at least there's something for them to work with. UM and JHA both use acrylic shells on their CIEMs, so my 2 cent is that normally the sonic difference would be negligible.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mython View Post

Suggest you get in touch with Stephen Guo
http://custom-iem.com/

 

Yes, 3nenbgumi restated what I meant, thank you!  Reshelling should result in a similar sound, but then on the off chance that something does go wrong, how would you know?  Of course, there are many people that are happy with their reshelled CIEMs and UM does good work.  As long as they use the same parts and keep the sound tubes similar in length and put the filters in exactly the same spot, you should be fine.  

 

The treble of my TF10 reshell was not true to the original, but pushing the dampers a few millimeters closer to the drivers changed the treble back to the original sound, which is an example of how the sound can change in a reshell.

 

As Mython suggested, do contact Stephen.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spen Javer View Post

If it's really sounds like R-50 then it wouldn't be an upgrade. I used R-50 as a base point to help anyone understand the sound signature i like. Sorry if it confused you tongue.gif

 

Thank you so much!

I'm already addicted to R-50's treble extension and if LCM-5 couldn't do that much, I'm sure i'll be disappointed =(

Now I only have to wait for someone to compare the C-4 to NT-6.

This is somehow, a rare match up...

 

I am not sure about the treble extension of the R-50, but the LCM-5 performs well in treble extension, which I test by ear with test tones.

 

I too would be interested in a C-4 to NT-6 or C-4 to LCM-5 comparison.  

post #2422 of 4092
I got the triple driver Reference like you reviewed, but they may send me another model to review in the future which would be awesome. Their flagship model looks interesting and would love to review it, first I'l review these though .
post #2423 of 4092

Has anyone heard the SE 4-way from Spiral Ear? 

post #2424 of 4092

I was using Alien Ears C3s for a year and thought they were great, super clear with massive bottom.  I sent them back to upgrade to the G8s (which added a high driver) and I couldn't be more pleased.  The sound is nothing short of amazing and the service was "right on"  I highly recommend Alien Ears for both quality and customer service.

post #2425 of 4092

My Alclairs shipped a couple of days ago, and they should be around in 2 weeks (Canadian shipping speeds)! The customer service was excellent. Amy from Alclair was very responsive and professional, and they made the IEMs pretty darn fast too! I placed the order on the 30th, and it was ready on the 11th. Now, I wait for'em to get here, and jump into the world of customs!

post #2426 of 4092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ojsinnerz View Post

My Alclairs shipped a couple of days ago, and they should be around in 2 weeks (Canadian shipping speeds)! The customer service was excellent. Amy from Alclair was very responsive and professional, and they made the IEMs pretty darn fast too! I placed the order on the 30th, and it was ready on the 11th. Now, I wait for'em to get here, and jump into the world of customs!

Also the reference monitors?
You will enjoy them, im interested in their flagship model too.
post #2427 of 4092

Joe are you getting the Alclair RSM?

post #2428 of 4092
Quote:
Originally Posted by backbeat2112 View Post

I was using Alien Ears C3s for a year and thought they were great, super clear with massive bottom.  I sent them back to upgrade to the G8s (which added a high driver) and I couldn't be more pleased.  The sound is nothing short of amazing and the service was "right on"  I highly recommend Alien Ears for both quality and customer service.

Could you give us some impressions on the sound signature?

post #2429 of 4092
Quote:
Originally Posted by randomkid View Post


Also the reference monitors?
You will enjoy them, im interested in their flagship model too.


Yeah, the Reference. I thought long and hard about their flagship model, but I decided to stick with the Reference.

post #2430 of 4092
Thread Starter 

Some new stuff:

 

    

 

 

   

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

Has anyone heard the SE 4-way from Spiral Ear? 

 

Not that I know of.  Per Grzegorz, it is more bass heavy than the 5-way.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

Joe are you getting the Alclair RSM?

 

Yes, should be arriving soon...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ojsinnerz View Post

Yeah, the Reference. I thought long and hard about their flagship model, but I decided to stick with the Reference.

 

Congrats, I am looking forward to your thoughts when the arrive.


Edited by average_joe - 1/13/13 at 9:43pm
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Multi-Custom In-Ear Monitor Review, Resource, Mfg List & Discussion (Check first post for review links & information)