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post #2026 of 4815
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post

Well got my mi3's back today.  I know I've said this before but it genuinely feels this time as though it might at last be sorted out.  The left feels very different now when I put it in. Before it really felt like it was digging in under the flap after a few minutes, now I don't get that feeling.  If it is sorted I might well be getting at least a set of tips from minerva for my westones (which ironically would involve sending my mi's back again so they have an accurate base model!).  Though I am tempted by those cosmic ears base models to use at work.  If anything happened to the mi's now after getting it sorted I think I'd cry! 

 

Oh and in other news looks like I might be drawing a line under my fisher situation in a positive light (though sadly the iems themselves still don't fit).

 

Anyone thinking of going with either fisher hearing (inearz) or minerva just go for it, shouldn't have any problems with either of them.


Cheers

 

Glad they are finally working out for you.  The Cosmic Ears, lol...once you get started it is hard to stop.  If you get them I am looking forward to a comparison.

 

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Too bad "these" won't be available before 2015. tongue.gif

 

That is a considerable wait.

post #2027 of 4815

Do you think UEPRM can compete with your favorite NT-6pro and SE 5-way?

post #2028 of 4815

considering get the IERM , i hate thick or warm IEM :D and i love the Heir 4.Ai a lot , still need some advice for ~1000$ custom IEM :(

post #2029 of 4815
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Do you think UEPRM can compete with your favorite NT-6pro and SE 5-way?

 

A better way to put it is can the UE PRM compete with the CIEMs with the highest technical ratings of what I own.  I don't have play favorites and believe people should buy based off their sound signature preferences within their price range.  It is too soon to tell exactly where the PRM stands.

 

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considering get the IERM , i hate thick or warm IEM :D and i love the Heir 4.Ai a lot , still need some advice for ~1000$ custom IEM :(

 

What are you looking to improve upon from the 4.Ai?  I wouldn't consider the IERM, JH16 (JH13), LS6, LS8+, and NT-6 thick or warm.  All have their particular strengths, so it just depends on what you want.

post #2030 of 4815
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

 

A better way to put it is can the UE PRM compete with the CIEMs with the highest technical ratings of what I own.  I don't have play favorites and believe people should buy based off their sound signature preferences within their price range.  It is too soon to tell exactly where the PRM stands.

 

I agree, what PRM offer is actually perfection in matter of fitting each person's taste, because it would be very rare (and very lucky!) to find a IEM/CIEM with all their preferences included without any complaints and/or insufficiency in certain areas.

 

And I'm targeting this baby to be my last journey in portable cans, so I personally don't really have limits on how much should I pay for her, although 2000$ (plus the trip to US) seems to be too much for me

 

I was asking about how do you like the PRM in comparison to the other 2. Totally about your subjectivity and nobody should accept the answer as an absolute truth without trying themselves


Edited by etherlite - 9/25/12 at 11:11pm
post #2031 of 4815
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If you missed it, a preview from the UE PRM review...a brief bit comparing the PRM vs. IERM.

 

The UM PP6 specs and frequency response chart.

 

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Originally Posted by etherlite View Post

I agree, what PRM offer is actually perfection in matter of fitting each person's taste, because it would be very rare (and very lucky!) to find a IEM/CIEM with all their preferences included without any complaints and/or insufficiency in certain areas.

 

And I'm targeting this baby to be my last journey in portable cans, so I personally don't really have limits on how much should I pay for her, although 2000$ (plus the trip to US) seems to be too much for me

 

I am sure over time there will be additional tuning boxes.  UE is popular down under from what I understand!

post #2032 of 4815

I have plans to go to LA anyway, been 21 years since the last time I've been in my birthplace xD

 

...yes, I haven't gone back to America since I was born

 

PP6 is actually one of the contender for my end of journey in portable cans (also FitEar MH335DW), but I don't feel like carrying another box that requires occasional recharging

post #2033 of 4815
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

 

A better way to put it is can the UE PRM compete with the CIEMs with the highest technical ratings of what I own.  I don't have play favorites and believe people should buy based off their sound signature preferences within their price range.  It is too soon to tell exactly where the PRM stands.

 

 

What are you looking to improve upon from the 4.Ai?  I wouldn't consider the IERM, JH16 (JH13), LS6, LS8+, and NT-6 thick or warm.  All have their particular strengths, so it just depends on what you want.

 

do you own the UM Miracle ?? can you give me some brief comparision between the IERM vs Miracle :D , i heard the JH16 demo before however i feel it was too bassy for me . Actually , i know i will love the IERM's sound sign but i want to know the IERM is worth for spending $1000 on it or there are some better choice for the same sound sign . i love clear , spacious , 3D and no color sound

post #2034 of 4815
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

If you missed it, a preview from the UE PRM review...a brief bit comparing the PRM vs. IERM.

 

The UM PP6 specs and frequency response chart.

 

I am sure over time there will be additional tuning boxes.  UE is popular down under from what I understand!

 

I read your little review preview, and what you said about the signature potentially changing the technical aspects...something interesting on that --

 

A few months ago, I sat down with a fellow head-fi member at a video production facility to compare 2 LCD-2s.  One of them was mine, equipped with LCD-3 pads, and one of them was stock with regular pads.  We both heard a clear difference in a couple of different areas (including technical areas) but wanted to corroborate with someone totally unfamiliar/unbiased.  So he called over his sound engineer, and we had the guy listen to a couple of test tracks and share his thoughts.  

 

The engineer correlated every perceivable difference, technical or not, to something about the tonal balance.  Air, speed, staging, imaging...everything tied back to the tonal balance for him.  It's understandable, I guess, considering his job.  There are no air or imaging knobs, after all, and he left adjusting levels and balance to achieve exactly what he needs.

 

Anyway, just sharing.  I don't necessarily think he's right, I think there's more to it than just balance, but it's an interesting perspective from someone who's living depends on it.

 

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I had something go awry with a recent sale of mine, so that's set my SE plans back a bit while I sort things out.  I have however, decided that I want silicone in my ears, so it'll be SE when it comes time to order.  I'm also on a running/training program.  This might incidentally make me lose something like 15-20lbs over the next 3-4 months.  Does anyone know if this can affect impressions, and whether it might be prudent to wait?  

 

I might just spring on my next (and hopefully last) transport/DAC/amp, the Invicta, while this running program affects things.  

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Edited by mogumagnus - 9/26/12 at 5:03pm
post #2036 of 4815
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Originally Posted by Rakan View Post

considering get the IERM , i hate thick or warm IEM :D and i love the Heir 4.Ai a lot , still need some advice for ~1000$ custom IEM :(

 

Ah. I guess the 4.A is too cheap, then. tongue.gif

 

Or you could wait until October. Then the price will jump from $450 to $699. That's a lot closer to $1000! very_evil_smiley.gif

post #2037 of 4815
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Originally Posted by Sinocelt View Post

 

Ah. I guess the 4.A is too cheap, then. tongue.gif

 

Or you could wait until October. Then the price will jump from $450 to $699. That's a lot closer to $1000! very_evil_smiley.gif

 

i owned the 4.Ai and i don't think i will go for the 4A :)

post #2038 of 4815
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Originally Posted by etherlite View Post

I have plans to go to LA anyway, been 21 years since the last time I've been in my birthplace xD

 

...yes, I haven't gone back to America since I was born

 

PP6 is actually one of the contender for my end of journey in portable cans (also FitEar MH335DW), but I don't feel like carrying another box that requires occasional recharging

 

Decisions decisions!  And I hope you have a great trip back, it has been quite a while ;)

 

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Originally Posted by Rakan View Post

 

do you own the UM Miracle ?? can you give me some brief comparision between the IERM vs Miracle :D , i heard the JH16 demo before however i feel it was too bassy for me . Actually , i know i will love the IERM's sound sign but i want to know the IERM is worth for spending $1000 on it or there are some better choice for the same sound sign . i love clear , spacious , 3D and no color sound

 

Unfortunately, no, I don't have a Miracle but from what I have been told, it is V shaped with enhanced bass.  If you like the rest of the JH16, the JH13 might be a good fit, however the LS6 and NT-6 are neutral with clear, spacious, 3D sound.  The NT-6 is more analytical, but still smooth while the LS6 is very liquid but still detailed and clear.  

 

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Originally Posted by sphinxvc View Post

 

I read your little review preview, and what you said about the signature potentially changing the technical aspects...something interesting on that --

 

A few months ago, I sat down with a fellow head-fi member at a video production facility to compare 2 LCD-2s.  One of them was mine, equipped with LCD-3 pads, and one of them was stock with regular pads.  We both heard a clear difference in a couple of different areas (including technical areas) but wanted to corroborate with someone totally unfamiliar/unbiased.  So he called over his sound engineer, and we had the guy listen to a couple of test tracks and share his thoughts.  

 

The engineer correlated every perceivable difference, technical or not, to something about the tonal balance.  Air, speed, staging, imaging...everything tied back to the tonal balance for him.  It's understandable, I guess, considering his job.  There are no air or imaging knobs, after all, and he left adjusting levels and balance to achieve exactly what he needs.

 

Anyway, just sharing.  I don't necessarily think he's right, I think there's more to it than just balance, but it's an interesting perspective from someone who's living depends on it.

 

--

 

I had something go awry with a recent sale of mine, so that's set my SE plans back a bit while I sort things out.  I have however, decided that I want silicone in my ears, so it'll be SE when it comes time to order.  I'm also on a running/training program.  This might incidentally make me lose something like 15-20lbs over the next 3-4 months.  Does anyone know if this can affect impressions, and whether it might be prudent to wait?  

 

I might just spring on my next (and hopefully last) transport/DAC/amp, the Invicta, while this running program affects things.  

 

Thanks for sharing.  I agree, tonal balance affects perception of the sound and is the effect of many things ranging from ADSR, FR, and phase.  I will attempt to figure out just how the IERM and PRM compare, if I have the time, but the SE is a great choice!

 

I would wait to make sure you don't have changes in your ear canal as weight gain/loss can affect ear canal size, but it is different for each person.  What happens if you go on the running program, lose the weight, get your custom IEMs made, and then gain the weight back?  Will your CIEMs fit?  If you can get before and after impressions, you can compare the size before and after.  You may have motivation to keep the weight off ;)

 

 

Invicta?  Link please.

post #2039 of 4815

Hope so! Didn't have any memory of being there at all (moved out when I was 3 months old), so I hope I can have great fun there (and would the peak be tuning UE PRM? :P)

 

Umm, I have to disagree there, I've tried Miracle and it has a similar characteristic with the earlier batch of AKG K3003 (leaning to treble), with more refined soundstage.

 

Please note that I've only tried the demo version, and Matt said the customized version have a slight difference, although the initial sound character stays the same.

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You may have motivation to keep the weight off ;)

 

tongue.gif  Good point.

 

 

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Invicta?  Link please.

 

http://resonessencelabs.com/

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