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post #1096 of 4815
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No, not the only option as the JH16 has a similar sound signature, and I believe the NT-6 Pro is also similar.  Also, the TS842 has a V shape to it, but the midrange is considered recessed, more like the FX500.

post #1097 of 4815
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No, not the only option as the JH16 has a similar sound signature, and I believe the NT-6 Pro is also similar.  Also, the TS842 has a V shape to it, but the midrange is considered recessed, more like the FX500.

But TS842 is a not as good as LS8 right?

 

After trying out the coppers again, the bass is deeper than FX700, which I like. I think the Copper is a bit too warm. 

 

between TS842, LS8 and NT-6 Pro

can you compare/rank the

treble presence, quality and extension

bass presence, quality and extension

3D and instrument separation


Edited by Mini0510 - 2/1/12 at 10:36pm
post #1098 of 4815
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But TS842 is a not as good as JH16 or LS8 right?
is the sound quality better than FX700?

 

JH16's treble is not as extended as FX700.

 

and which one has a closer sound signature as FX700? LS8 or NT-6 Pro?

Im undecided again.

 

 

 


Good grief....I'm lost now. I'll just get an iBud and stay the heck away from this thread. LOL

 

post #1099 of 4815
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But TS842 is a not as good as LS8 right?

 

After trying out the coppers again, the bass is deeper than FX700, which I like. I think the Copper is a bit too warm. 

 

between TS842, LS8 and NT-6 Pro

can you compare/rank the

treble presence, quality and extension

bass presence, quality and extension

3D and instrument separation


I don't have the NT-6 Pro yet, and the LS8 is a good step above the TS842 in the treble region, but the TS842 has more bass rumble ability and depth.  Everything else favors the LS8.

 

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Good grief....I'm lost now. I'll just get an iBud and stay the heck away from this thread. LOL


Lol.

 

post #1100 of 4815
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I don't have the NT-6 Pro yet, and the LS8 is a good step above the TS842 in the treble region, but the TS842 has more bass rumble ability and depth.  Everything else favors the LS8.


Thats good. I guess LS8 still would suit me the most. And you mentioned in the NT-6 review that LS8 is more forgiving on low quality tracks. I think I have a few 192kbps MP3 on my music list.

 

and in the review, NT-6 has more space and 3D presentation than LS8, thats a very small/subtle difference right?

and the imaging, clarity and transparency is better with NT-6 but very small difference right?


Edited by Mini0510 - 2/1/12 at 10:56pm
post #1101 of 4815
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The amount of the differences are dependent upon the source, track, and you.  If you don't know any better, you aren't missing a thing! 

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The amount of the differences are dependent upon the source, track, and you.  If you don't know any better, you aren't missing a thing! 

 

right. you mentioned in the review that LS8 has more punch, which is good. 

NT-6 has a deeper bass than LS8, the difference is very small right?

 

I'm not sure if FX700 is considered warm or lean. If Copper is very warm, then FX700 is definitely leaner.

Since I like the FX700, I would like a custom with better quality of sound and has a similar sound signature.

which one is closer to FX700, NT-6 or LS8?


Edited by Mini0510 - 2/2/12 at 12:11am
post #1103 of 4815
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right. you mentioned in the review that LS8 has more punch, which is good. 

NT-6 has a deeper bass than LS8, the difference is very small right?

 

I'm not sure if FX700 is considered warm or lean. If Copper is very warm, then FX700 is definitely leaner.

Since I like the FX700, I would like a custom with better quality of sound and has a similar sound signature.

which one is closer to FX700, NT-6 or LS8?


Nothing is exactly like the FX700 and the LS8 is the closest.  The NT-6 does not have enhanced bass and is more analytical than the FX700/LS8.  You can rest assured that the LS8, from what I have heard, is the best choice for what you are looking for.

 

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Nothing is exactly like the FX700 and the LS8 is the closest.  The NT-6 does not have enhanced bass and is more analytical than the FX700/LS8.  You can rest assured that the LS8, from what I have heard, is the best choice for what you are looking for.

 


Thanks! In the market, is FX700 considered slightly analytical or slightly warm?

 

post #1105 of 4815
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Thanks! In the market, is FX700 considered slightly analytical or slightly warm?


Not warm, but I wouldn't necessarily say analytical, maybe more on the cold side.  Analytical to me means a quicker note and the FX700, while having a quicker note than the Copper, still has a liquidity to it similar to the LS8.

 

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Hey average_joe or anyone who experienced a refit where it resulted to the volume on one side lower than the other in particular with vocals.  Specifically, this is in regards to a triple BA /w crossover.  I already checked that it isn't the cable or connector, so can this be caused by a crossover wire touching another? On the suspected ear piece that was just sent back to me after getting refitted,  I notice that the wires are touching each other on various points. 

 

If true, I would expect that refitted ear pieces are properly tested upon shipping it back out to the owner.  I now understand first hand how refits can be a frustrating process/nightmare, especially since I noticed in general, getting refits done and returned takes longer than getting a brand new set made.  Who knows, maybe it's just me.

post #1107 of 4815
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Hey average_joe or anyone who experienced a refit where it resulted to the volume on one side lower than the other in particular with vocals.  Specifically, this is in regards to a triple BA /w crossover.  I already checked that it isn't the cable or connector, so can this be caused by a crossover wire touching another? On the suspected ear piece that was just sent back to me after getting refitted,  I notice that the wires are touching each other on various points. 

 

If true, I would expect that refitted ear pieces are properly tested upon shipping it back out to the owner.  I now understand first hand how refits can be a frustrating process/nightmare, especially since I noticed in general, getting refits done and returned takes longer than getting a brand new set made.  Who knows, maybe it's just me.


This is exactly the kind of stuff which scares me about taking the plunge with customs. Being that I'm so far away from the most custom's manufacturers just makes the whole process take even longer. And I'm kinda impatient! LOL.

 

post #1108 of 4815

^To me its the unavailability of demo units. So I had to settle with an uIEM I really liked and have it customized. Fortunately, I didn't encounter any fit issues, it was perfect with Stage93 in Singapore. I am from the Philippines btw :D

post #1109 of 4815
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Originally Posted by alphaphoenix View Post

Hey average_joe or anyone who experienced a refit where it resulted to the volume on one side lower than the other in particular with vocals.  Specifically, this is in regards to a triple BA /w crossover.  I already checked that it isn't the cable or connector, so can this be caused by a crossover wire touching another? On the suspected ear piece that was just sent back to me after getting refitted,  I notice that the wires are touching each other on various points. 

If true, I would expect that refitted ear pieces are properly tested upon shipping it back out to the owner.  I now understand first hand how refits can be a frustrating process/nightmare, especially since I noticed in general, getting refits done and returned takes longer than getting a brand new set made.  Who knows, maybe it's just me.

The wires are actually lacquered even though they look like they're uninsulated, so just because they appear to be touching one another does not mean they are short-circuiting.

Have you checked that you don't have moisture in the sound tubes? Look for average_joe's review of a hearing aid dryer for more info on this.
Edited by Mython - 2/5/12 at 3:22am
post #1110 of 4815
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Originally Posted by alphaphoenix View Post

Hey average_joe or anyone who experienced a refit where it resulted to the volume on one side lower than the other in particular with vocals.  Specifically, this is in regards to a triple BA /w crossover.  I already checked that it isn't the cable or connector, so can this be caused by a crossover wire touching another? On the suspected ear piece that was just sent back to me after getting refitted,  I notice that the wires are touching each other on various points. 

 

If true, I would expect that refitted ear pieces are properly tested upon shipping it back out to the owner.  I now understand first hand how refits can be a frustrating process/nightmare, especially since I noticed in general, getting refits done and returned takes longer than getting a brand new set made.  Who knows, maybe it's just me.

 

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The wires are actually lacquered even though they look like they're uninsulated, so just because they appear to be touching one another does not mean they are short-circuiting.
Have you checked that you don't have moisture in the sound tubes? Look for average_joe's review of a hearing aid dryer for more info on this.


True about the wires being coated (I actually think it is anodized due to the color), so no short circuit should occur if the wired touch each other.  

 

Moisture in a sound tube can affect the sound and you never know what happened in transport, or even at the manufacturer, but that may not fix the issue.

 

You didn't mention trying various sources, so if you haven't, please rule that out.

 

Here is what I would do:

- Use ear lube to make sure you have a good seal on both ears.  Be liberal with the application, but stay away from the sound tubes.  This will ensure you have the best seal possible.

- Run a sine wave sweep from 20 Hz to 20 KHz and listen for the issue with preferably a 1 minute total time.  You should have a centered tone, but chances are you will hear some shifts to one side or the other from time to time, and as long as they aren't too large, you more than likely won't hear them with music.  What you are looking for is a fairly significant shift in the sound at around where you think the issue is.

 

If you hear the issue, then you can communicate that back, if not, dry your ears and the shell and repeat. If you then experience the issue, it is a fit issue.  Also check to see if the angle of the sound tubes is similar, and the length of the canals.  They don't have to match perfectly since your ears may not be symmetric, but they should most likely be similar.

 

I won't speculate as to possible issues with the manufacture, but things can go wrong during manufacture.  

 

Also, any additional information such as what the product is, if the refit was only with one channel, etc. may help.

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