Thanks, less "stuff" to sift through!
JH13 pro FP will be more neutral (from what I have been told) while the NT-6 Pro will be more fun and exciting. I really can't say much about how they would compare technically, but the JH13 FP is supposedly around NT-6 performance, and I hear the NT-6 pro as offering slightly superior performance to the NT-6. It could be a wash technically, which goes back to neutral vs more fun (based on what I know, not an actual comparison ).
This is what I find from erji.net. A thread originally made by a guy from Hongkong kevin_cartier.
I found it's quite useful, specially for people who wants to get a basic idea of Compact Ear Stage CIEMs, so I borrow it to here.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
1. number of drivers,
2. treble resolution,
3. treble brightness,
4. mid resolution,
5. mid density,
6. bass reproduction,
7. bass depth,
8. coherence? (not sure, basically how bass, mid, and treble are balanced, and presented),
11. note decay.
TF is for FP
8 and 6 for the last two rows for 1964 V6
Nice little chart, thanks for sharing. Knowing the source is also important
First of all, thank you so much for such an unbelievable job you have done there.
However I am looking for one flagship, Westone ES5. Do you have any plan about adding it to the list?
I don't know if you listened to ES5 before but I am actually very curious about comparison between SE 5-way. Both in presentation and isolation aspects since Westone uses a special technology for their ciems ear canal section. It is basicly hard as acrylic in the room temperature but when it is inside of your ear, with your body heat, it softens and becomes like a silicone material.
Thanks to the Inner Fidelity review (and other head-fi members), I have heard many very good things about the ES5. I believe it is similar to the SE5 in presentation, but not the same. My current plans are to finish all the reviews I have on my plate, but I would love to review the ES5.
The vinyl tips are supposedly very comfortable and offer very good isolation, but from what I understand, not quite to the level of silicone. But, unless isolation is your #1 concern, the difference probably doesn't warrant making a decision based off one or the other.
See above . I would love to, but must focus on reviewing what I currently have.
Getting back on track, I'm looking forward to this technology becoming widely available:
Average Joe, this thread is amazing and your reviews have been a pleasure to read, thanks for all your time and effort put into making the world of ciems less daunting
I'm currently in the market for a ciem and I think I've narrowed it down to a few options, but I'd love to hear what the experts think. My priorities are:
1. Soundstage/Imaging: I'm used to open headphone soundstages so the larger the stage the better, but the imaging has to keep up as well.
2. Bass depth: Seriously deep bass extension. Not necessarily a large amount, but definitely bumped up a bit from neutral. More sub bass than mid bass > I consider Denon DX000 bass awesome if that means anything.
3. Warm but neutral mids: I really don't like distant mids that make it sound like the singer is standing across an auditorium from me, but also don't like them to be in my face either.
4. No sibilance please: I don't mind treble having an elevated presence, as long as they're smooth.
As far as music goes, most of my music is Rock and Alternative, but I listen to everything from classical to soundtracks.
I'd also love it if the company had good customer service/build quality, and being in the U.S. would be a plus because then I wouldn't have to worry about overseas shipping.
Thanks for any help guys.
What's your price range? If the UE PRM falls within your budget, you can have it all, especially since you can tune it yourself! Another options is the aud-8X, which has a fairly neutral sound signature, but does have excellent bass and is on the richer/thicker side of things compared with something like the IERM. Of course, the most spacious is the M-Fidelity SA-43 from Norway, but that needs good amplification and the bass isn't as deep as the others. Let me know what you think of these suggestions and if you have more questions.
I remember when that first made the news around a year ago. That looks fantastic, however I would guess it will only be for the big guys like UE and possibly Westone/JHA due to cost and requirements for manufacture. It makes more sense in a high volume business like hearing aids. But, I am all for it!