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post #1966 of 2924
9/9/12 at 7:03am

I have heard that they shrink

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post #1967 of 2924
9/9/12 at 9:45am

Hi Metalboy. I remembered that you bought the NT-6pro. How is it now? you said previously that the highs were too shrill or metalic. Have the highs tamed down now?

And what are your impressions on them?

 

Thanks

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post #1968 of 2924
9/9/12 at 11:14am
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Hi Metalboy. I remembered that you bought the NT-6pro. How is it now? you said previously that the highs were too shrill or metalic. Have the highs tamed down now?

And what are your impressions on them?

 

Thanks


Hi, I like it much more now. Yes they have, I don´t know if they have a extremly long burn in time, but the highs are much better now, especialy with the Toxic silver cable.

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post #1969 of 2924
9/9/12 at 1:54pm
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I have heard that they shrink


Some does - if made from old-type material. Basically silicone-based material has like 99,6% shrink ratio after one year. Which means that such impressions almost don't change over time

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post #1970 of 2924
9/9/12 at 2:14pm
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Some does - if made from old-type material. Basically silicone-based material has like 99,6% shrink ratio after one year. Which means that such impressions almost don't change over time


Thanks for telling me :) Then I can use my 2.5 months ear impressions I got back from heir audio if I want to. But I almost wish that they didn´t do that :P

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post #1971 of 2924
9/9/12 at 2:16pm
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Thanks for telling me :) Then I can use my 2.5 months ear impressions I got back from heir audio if I want to. But I almost wish that they didn´t do that :P

Yes, those should still fit your ears perfectly. And.... sorry for your wallet. ;)

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post #1972 of 2924
9/9/12 at 2:57pm

HERE is a link to my thread about that new low priced CIEM company I mentioned a few days ago. I got a lot of questions about it so I figured I would post a link here. 

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post #1973 of 2924
9/9/12 at 10:27pm
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Hi, I like it much more now. Yes they have, I don´t know if they have a extremly long burn in time, but the highs are much better now, especialy with the Toxic silver cable.

 

Yes, they do take some time to burn in and I am glad you like the more now.  However, Hidition has changed something with the NT-6 pro (coupler?) so the treble is smoother, yet still very detailed.  I can say the NT-6 pro offers the best clarity and presents amazing amounts of detail and resolution, and serves it up quite well.  My NT-6 pro also has silicone tips and the fit is perfect, which does help with the overall sound in my experience.

 

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Thanks for telling me :) Then I can use my 2.5 months ear impressions I got back from heir audio if I want to. But I almost wish that they didn´t do that :P

 

I am assuming they are cut down, right?  They should work unless the manufacturer wants something more, but you should be able to send a picture for verification.  What are you planning on getting?

 

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HERE is a link to my thread about that new low priced CIEM company I mentioned a few days ago. I got a lot of questions about it so I figured I would post a link here. 

 

Very nice, thank you!

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post #1974 of 2924
9/9/12 at 11:24pm
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Yes, they do take some time to burn in and I am glad you like the more now.  However, Hidition has changed something with the NT-6 pro (coupler?) so the treble is smoother, yet still very detailed.  I can say the NT-6 pro offers the best clarity and presents amazing amounts of detail and resolution, and serves it up quite well.  My NT-6 pro also has silicone tips and the fit is perfect, which does help with the overall sound in my experience.

 

 

I am assuming they are cut down, right?  They should work unless the manufacturer wants something more, but you should be able to send a picture for verification.  What are you planning on getting?

 

 

Very nice, thank you!

 

A very long time. Almost gave up on them :) I regret not getting silicone tips. Yeah they are, Maybe something cheaper that I can use at the gym and run with if possible. That won´t break because of sweat.

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post #1975 of 2924
9/9/12 at 11:37pm
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If you want enhanced bass, the i9pro is great from a "won't break due to sweat" CIEM.  I did manage to clog one of the internal filters in my SA-12 and still have yet to send it for repair.  I am now using the LS8 and I have to say I love the sound but am a bit fearful of getting sweat in them, although I try to be extra careful.

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post #1976 of 2924
9/10/12 at 2:35am
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I did manage to clog one of the internal filters in my SA-12 and still have yet to send it for repair.  

 

I haven't clogged my 4.A, I clean it semi-regularly, but its tubes will never be as clean as on the day I received it. For that reason, I've sometimes wondered if a universal with custom silicone tips couldn't be the best of both worlds: comfortable, easy to clean, with good isolation. A problem I can see (and did see, on pictures) is that it can make the IEM protrude quite a lot more than seems strictly necessary.

 

Of course, some universals fit so well, custom tips may not be needed at all. I tried many (many many many) tips with the Etymotics models, never to my satisfaction, until very recently, when I tried the Atrio's biflange on it. It was perfect. Better than on the Atrios themselves, actually, because the suction of the tips can create a vacuum seal that provides great isolation but prevents the Atrios's dynamic driver from moving (i.e. no sound at all), while this problem doesn't occur with the HF-5 and ER-4 models.


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post #1977 of 2924
9/10/12 at 6:27am
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Hi, I like it much more now. Yes they have, I don´t know if they have a extremly long burn in time, but the highs are much better now, especialy with the Toxic silver cable.

Thanks Metalboy. So the silver poison helped to tame the highs? I though that it would make it even more peaky. I have always thought silver cables were to enhance highs and tighten the bass. Copper was to give warmer bass and to tame the highs.

Maybe I'm wrong with this concept?

Joe can you give a view as you have the nt-6, nt-6 pro and ls8 with multiple cables such as the magnus and twag2.

Thanks
Edited by sinsiang - 9/10/12 at 6:28am
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post #1978 of 2924
9/10/12 at 7:56am
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Thanks Metalboy. So the silver poison helped to tame the highs? I though that it would make it even more peaky. I have always thought silver cables were to enhance highs and tighten the bass. Copper was to give warmer bass and to tame the highs.
Maybe I'm wrong with this concept?
Joe can you give a view as you have the nt-6, nt-6 pro and ls8 with multiple cables such as the magnus and twag2.
Thanks
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If you want enhanced bass, the i9pro is great from a "won't break due to sweat" CIEM.  I did manage to clog one of the internal filters in my SA-12 and still have yet to send it for repair.  I am now using the LS8 and I have to say I love the sound but am a bit fearful of getting sweat in them, although I try to be extra careful.

Is it because of the dynamic driver and the large soundtube?


I tried another silver Cable and it made it much worse. Way to bright and piercing
Treble. But it sounded very good with my es5.

Typing on the phone is difficult in this site.
Edited by Metalboy - 9/10/12 at 7:58am
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post #1979 of 2924
9/10/12 at 9:43am
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Great to hear you have them back and especially great that they now fit!  I am looking forward to your evaluation when you are ready!  Cheers

 

 So close but yet still so far.  I'm now convinced that it's the part where it hooks under the flap at the top of the ear that is now the problem.  Tried these on and off at work today for longer periods and always got uncomfortable.  However my ear canal feels absolutely fine in comparison.  In the past it always felt sore after about half an hour.  Just feels like it really digs in there.  I know the idea is for it to "lock" under the skin but it feels like it just needs reducing a bit.  Been in touch with Lee so will see.  Right ear feels fine as long as I get the insertion  correct (ooer!).  When it was sealed properly I finally began to get a good idea of the sound.  How long would you say these need to be considered run in?  So far all things considered I think I'm on about 5-6 hours in total.

 

Cheers

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post #1980 of 2924
9/10/12 at 9:54pm

Hello,

Do you happen to know of a CIEM that's brighter than SE-5 in the highest end? (>4.5k)

I'm talking around 6 dB/oct brighter (meaning notably), but not as bright as Brainwavz B2 / Fisher Audio DBA-02.

 

Tiny bit lighter midbass and more forward 1-2k mids as well if possible. General sound quality preferably on par (will be hard to match in bass and subbass).

 

If it helps, here's the graphical representation:

 

The extreme subbass and super highs (>17k) are less important. The high dip is centered on 14 kHz.

Similarly sounding headphones are also acceptable if you happen know any.


Edited by AstralStorm - 9/10/12 at 10:40pm
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