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post #256 of 268

Well it looks like i have fixed the problem. I did a full format on both the internal memory and SD card and then re-transfered the files. Now they appear as playable music files. One problem i am having though (though its not a biggy) is getting the CK4 to add them to the musiclib. When i do a Musiclib refresh nothing happens.

post #257 of 268
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Originally Posted by uncledrax View Post

Well it looks like i have fixed the problem. I did a full format on both the internal memory and SD card and then re-transfered the files. Now they appear as playable music files. One problem i am having though (though its not a biggy) is getting the CK4 to add them to the musiclib. When i do a Musiclib refresh nothing happens.

Hi there, glad you got it sorted, I would not of thought of that.

I have some bad news though, the genre's artist etc only work off the internal memory the TF section is exactly that only for folder browsing, when you refresh it doesn't do anything. tongue.gif How are you enjoying the sound now you can relax? I have excellent results using the line out with C&C BH amp, really takes CK4 up to a higher level.

It's not pretty though. tongue.gif



The amp cost $100 you can read about it here.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/644363/c-c-bh-portable-headphone-amp-80-hours-from-a-single-charge-buyer-review
post #258 of 268

well this is just dissappointing.  CK4 screen all of a sudden has dead pixels

post #259 of 268

Dunno if this has been mentioned ... if you're using LO, setting vol. at one or two steps below MAX seems to give best results. Not sure why: for external amp, using its vol. at higher levels may be the reason. Something about greater "linearity" when analog volume is used at higher level. Then again, the reason I hear improvement may be something intrinsic to the CS4398 DAC (or the way it drives the opa's that follow).

Anyway, try it yourself ... extended listening works best as this is a subtle but important improvement, IMO.

post #260 of 268

Looking for a nice mid/treble-focused DAP which is good at rendering female vocals, pushing them forward out of the music mix in all energy, emotion and detail.

Do you think Colorfly CK4+ might be a good choice?

Has anyone ever compared Colorfly CK4 + amp versus IHIFI812V2 ?

post #261 of 268
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Originally Posted by 3stun View Post
 

Looking for a nice mid/treble-focused DAP which is good at rendering female vocals, pushing them forward out of the music mix in all energy, emotion and detail.

Do you think Colorfly CK4+ might be a good choice?

Has anyone ever compared Colorfly CK4 + amp versus IHIFI812V2 ?

Lot of things depends of your phones.

I was having modified CK4+ (AD8397+good capacitors inside) and i doesn't need an amp. Without modification CK4+ sounds good and amplifier can give a lot of positive things to the sound.
Amplifiers were RSA Hornet, Fiio E11, headphones Sennheiser HD25-1-2, Beyerdynamic DT1350, IEMs Sennheiser IE8, HiFiman RE400, but comparison versus iHifi960.

What can i say, iHIFI louder, that is all. CK4+ mod sounds better in terms of layering and instrumental separation, iHiFi is little more musical.

iHiFi812 v2 sounds warm and sweet, the most melodic device from other 3 players. I was listening to him on Grado GR10, Sennheiser IE8 (+silver cable), Denon D600, Hifiman RE400. Sound is very good, but his body is too big and ugly, i can't call this player to be portable.

post #262 of 268
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Originally Posted by Berkovajazz View Post
 

Lot of things depends of your phones.

I was having modified CK4+ (AD8397+good capacitors inside) and i doesn't need an amp. Without modification CK4+ sounds good and amplifier can give a lot of positive things to the sound.
Amplifiers were RSA Hornet, Fiio E11, headphones Sennheiser HD25-1-2, Beyerdynamic DT1350, IEMs Sennheiser IE8, HiFiman RE400, but comparison versus iHifi960.

What can i say, iHIFI louder, that is all. CK4+ mod sounds better in terms of layering and instrumental separation, iHiFi is little more musical.

iHiFi812 v2 sounds warm and sweet, the most melodic device from other 3 players. I was listening to him on Grado GR10, Sennheiser IE8 (+silver cable), Denon D600, Hifiman RE400. Sound is very good, but his body is too big and ugly, i can't call this player to be portable.

 

Thank you very much, Berkovajazz!

If CK4+ priced <$200 is as good as iHIFI960 priced $375, only with less volume (which could be fixed with a proper amp), then it is indeed a great buy.

I'm kind of new to all this audiophile stuff, don't quite understand what you mean by "melodic". I understand "warm" as "having more bass" and "sweet" as "flat highs". Could you just say which of these players make vocals sound more natural & with more energy?

post #263 of 268

CK4+ sounds very good! Melodic is something like warmer:)
IEMs example, like Etymotic is cold and neutral sounding (but more natural) vs Shure which has little coloration, but more warm and sweet. With Shure you want to dance, with Ety's you are getting amazed of how it's natural sounding.

post #264 of 268

So which of these do you think would be the best choice regarding only sound quality (with mids quality&quantity being the 1st and treble the 2nd, bass less important):

1) CK4 + $100 amp;

2) iHIFI 812V2;

3) iHIFI 960

?

 

From reviews I got an impression that Etymotic are more analytical (very detailed) sounding, so between "Shure" and "Etymotic"-like sound, I believe I'm more towards the "Shure"-side.


Edited by 3stun - 9/4/13 at 7:01am
post #265 of 268

If you need more energetic and melodic player, iHiFi 812v2 will be the best. 
CK4+ needs amp only for a full-sized headphones, for IEMs his HO is very good. I was trying even high impadence earphones like Etymotic ER4S, HiFiman RE0, Sunrise Dragon-2, he drives them normally.
But sound signature is more on analytical side, not boring, analitycal.
As for other parameters iHiFi 812 is very big and ugly, 960 is big and heavy... Take a look on a new iHiFi760, very interesting device, WM8740 + good amp inside, portable size. First users says that he is better than Iriver AK100, Fiio X3, Hifiman 601. It is loud words, waiting for more reviews about this player. Also wait for a couple of days more information about new Ibasso DX50 player.

Back to the topic, modified CK4+ was my favourite player in all parameters (sound, price, size, materials, ui, buttons, and more and more and more):)

post #266 of 268
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Originally Posted by Berkovajazz View Post
 

If you need more energetic and melodic player, iHiFi 812v2 will be the best. 
CK4+ needs amp only for a full-sized headphones, for IEMs his HO is very good. I was trying even high impadence earphones like Etymotic ER4S, HiFiman RE0, Sunrise Dragon-2, he drives them normally.
But sound signature is more on analytical side, not boring, analitycal.
As for other parameters iHiFi 812 is very big and ugly, 960 is big and heavy... Take a look on a new iHiFi760, very interesting device, WM8740 + good amp inside, portable size. First users says that he is better than Iriver AK100, Fiio X3, Hifiman 601. It is loud words, waiting for more reviews about this player. Also wait for a couple of days more information about new Ibasso DX50 player.

Back to the topic, modified CK4+ was my favourite player in all parameters (sound, price, size, materials, ui, buttons, and more and more and more):)

While I like the words "energetic and melodic" about iHiFi 812v2, I also prefer brighter (with pronounced upper-mid/treble) sound to the darker sound, and from what I read all players based on wm8740 are more on the darker side. This is where Colorfly players stand out, in my opinion.

I read on some forum about a direct comparison between Colorfly CK4 and EMU1212 (based on the same CS4392), and there wasn't much difference...

 

As for iHIFI760, first previews say it is inferior to both 812 and 960 in sound quality. Besides, they say it is darker/warmer than X3, which is pretty dark/warm itself.

 

While I'm looking for something bright/mid-forward and musical/melodic/energetic at the same time...

post #267 of 268
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Originally Posted by 3stun View Post
 

While I like the words "energetic and melodic" about iHiFi 812v2, I also prefer brighter (with pronounced upper-mid/treble) sound to the darker sound, and from what I read all players based on wm8740 are more on the darker side. This is where Colorfly players stand out, in my opinion.

I read on some forum about a direct comparison between Colorfly CK4 and EMU1212 (based on the same CS4392), and there wasn't much difference...

 

As for iHIFI760, first previews say it is inferior to both 812 and 960 in sound quality. Besides, they say it is darker/warmer than X3, which is pretty dark/warm itself.

 

While I'm looking for something bright/mid-forward and musical/melodic/energetic at the same time...

It was Teclast T51/Nationite S:Flo2. R.I.P.

2xWM8740 and bright but beautiful sound.

 

Wait for a couple of days for reviews of new IHIFI760 and DX50. It can be magic:)

post #268 of 268
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Originally Posted by 3stun View Post
 

Looking for a nice mid/treble-focused DAP which is good at rendering female vocals, pushing them forward out of the music mix in all energy, emotion and detail.

Do you think Colorfly CK4+ might be a good choice?

Has anyone ever compared Colorfly CK4 + amp versus IHIFI812V2 ?

You should try Colorfly C3 which is more suitable for your demands and maybe add a C&C BH2 in the future. C3 is all about mid and especially mid detail and clarity. Treble comes 2nd and the bass in 3rd place in hearing squence. 


Edited by ozkan - 10/29/13 at 5:37am
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