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post #121 of 268

Newly found Bugs/Problems:

 

- User EQ really not working (at least on FLAC/WAV)

  Not at all, tried several times. The preprogrammed (like rock..) works, but not ok for me.

 

- hiss noise

I have Audio-Technica ATH-CKM55 Earbuds too:

http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/audio-technica-athckm55-inear-sound-isolating-earphones-black-prodid-2441.html

With this there is a hiss noise (easily can be heard),

which is related to the movement of the earphone cables.

I think it is not related to any EMC issue (phone/pc or else).

Strange because I did not have this issue with other (and much cheaper) players (I have Philips GoGear Vibe SA2VBE08).

 

By the way I like the player sound quality, but there are these annoying things...

 

I have written these problems to the support too, and these questions:

 

- When can we have the new firmware? Where can we check that, and get?

- Which microSD card supported?

(8-16GB-32GB?, Class 2-4-6-10?)

post #122 of 268

^keep us updated! and thanks for being the guinea pig!  

post #123 of 268

Well, I'll give them credit for responding and acknowledging the issues.  That's more than I expected.

post #124 of 268

I get the answer about the new firmware release:

 

"Probably in May, we will release out the upgrade package of CK4.
You can get the upgrade package of CK4 from our website (www.colorfly.net) .
Now We are preparing the website, adding the CK4 information."
post #125 of 268
Quote:
Originally Posted by bitlisz View Post

I get the answer about the new firmware release:

 

"Probably in May, we will release out the upgrade package of CK4.
You can get the upgrade package of CK4 from our website (www.colorfly.net) .
Now We are preparing the website, adding the CK4 information."


Thank you for these informations. How are the highs, mids and the lows? With what headphones do you listen to the CK4 mostly?

post #126 of 268

This is what I have: SUPERLUX HD668B (with AKG velour earpads), and Audio-Technica ATH-CKM55.

I use mostly the Superlux, but on the road not.

 

The basses with them well defined and dinamic, goes deep enough. It seem I can distinguish between them, not washed together.

It seems a bit weak and for some cases I need more bass, as candy for my ears...(but the EQ is not working).

 

The mids just fine, I have not heard any better yet...Even the piano good to hear (because I dont like the digital sound of this).

Ther overal sound is with plenty of details, far more than any of my portable player does or what i heard before.

I compared to my HarmanKardon AVR-255 (sorry but this is modified too:) but really better that the stock),

I can't tell which is better...booth has holographic deep and wide stage, not in the face now sound.

In CK4 the presentation maybe the highs are too much for me. But 'Im quite sure that this is on the safe side.

 

To be hones I dont want to tell too much about the sound now, because I cant critize that too much (and my english not soo good).

I was pleanty of times on Hifi/High-End shows too, I know what is good (for me).

 

Now I heading to some portable headphone amp, with some warm sound (a bit tube like).

(like Headstage Arrow (4G?), iBasso T3/T3D/T4...but 100-250EUR)

The music what I tested (Just the directory list from the player now) (Click to show)

Flac albums  - [192-24]:

Ali Farka Toure - 1990 - The River
Alice in Chains - Jar of Flies
Allan Taylor - 2000 - Colour to the Moon
Bebel Gilberto - 2004 - Bebel Gilberto
Coldplay - 2008 - Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends
Gotan Project - 2003 - La revancha del tango
Mari Boine - 2006 - Idjagiedas
Melody Gardot - 2005 - Some Lessons (bedroom sessions)
Melody Gardot - 2007 - Worrisome Heart
Melody Gardot - 2009 - My One And Only Thrill
Natalie Merchant - 1998 - Ophelia
Natalie Merchant - 2001 - Tigerlily
Natalie Merchant - 2010 - Leave Your Sleep
OST - Tron Legacy - 2010 - Daft Punk
Quimby (<- Hungarian)
Robert Plant & Alison Krauss - 2007 - Raising Sand
The Cult - 1993 - Pure Cult - Greatest Hits
The National - 2007 - Boxer
The National - 2010 - High Violet
Yasmin Levy - 2009 - Sentir
Yonderboi - 2005 - Splendid Isolation
Zero 7 - 2001 - Simple Things

 

HD (WAV):

Trondheimsolistene - In Folk Style - [96-24]

Trondheimsolistene - In Folk Style - [192-24]

 

Yim Hok-man - 1998 - Master Of Chinese Percussion [88,2-24]:

Yim Hok-man - Poem of Chinese Drum.wav

 

Some samples from the Norvegian 2L Records - [192-24]:

Simple Symphony  op. 4 - Boisterous Bourree (192 kHz).wav
Joseph Haydn (1732-1809) - String Quartet In D, Op. 76, No. 5 - Finale - Presto.wav

Vivaldi - Recitative and Aria from Cantata RV 679.wav

 

Some Grover Washington, Jr. Vinyl rip - [192-24]:

Grover Washington, Jr. - Just The Two of Us.wav
Grover Washington, Jr. - Mister Magic.wav

 

post #127 of 268


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitlisz View Post

This is what I have: SUPERLUX HD668B (with AKG velour earpads), and Audio-Technica ATH-CKM55.

I use mostly the Superlux, but on the road not.

 

The basses with them well defined and dinamic, goes deep enough. It seem I can distinguish between them, not washed together.

It seems a bit weak and for some cases I need more bass, as candy for my ears...(but the EQ is not working).

 

The mids just fine, I have not heard any better yet...Even the piano good to hear (because I dont like the digital sound of this).

Ther overal sound is with plenty of details, far more than any of my portable player does or what i heard before.

I compared to my HarmanKardon AVR-255 (sorry but this is modified too:) but really better that the stock),

I can't tell which is better...booth has holographic deep and wide stage, not in the face now sound.

In CK4 the presentation maybe the highs are too much for me. But 'Im quite sure that this is on the safe side.

 

To be hones I dont want to tell too much about the sound now, because I cant critize that too much (and my english not soo good).

I was pleanty of times on Hifi/High-End shows too, I know what is good (for me).

 

Now I heading to some portable headphone amp, with some warm sound (a bit tube like).

(like Headstage Arrow (4G?), iBasso T3/T3D/T4...but 100-250EUR)

The music what I tested (Just the directory list from the player now) (Click to show)

Flac albums  - [192-24]:

Ali Farka Toure - 1990 - The River
Alice in Chains - Jar of Flies
Allan Taylor - 2000 - Colour to the Moon
Bebel Gilberto - 2004 - Bebel Gilberto
Coldplay - 2008 - Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends
Gotan Project - 2003 - La revancha del tango
Mari Boine - 2006 - Idjagiedas
Melody Gardot - 2005 - Some Lessons (bedroom sessions)
Melody Gardot - 2007 - Worrisome Heart
Melody Gardot - 2009 - My One And Only Thrill
Natalie Merchant - 1998 - Ophelia
Natalie Merchant - 2001 - Tigerlily
Natalie Merchant - 2010 - Leave Your Sleep
OST - Tron Legacy - 2010 - Daft Punk
Quimby (<- Hungarian)
Robert Plant & Alison Krauss - 2007 - Raising Sand
The Cult - 1993 - Pure Cult - Greatest Hits
The National - 2007 - Boxer
The National - 2010 - High Violet
Yasmin Levy - 2009 - Sentir
Yonderboi - 2005 - Splendid Isolation
Zero 7 - 2001 - Simple Things

 

HD (WAV):

Trondheimsolistene - In Folk Style - [96-24]

Trondheimsolistene - In Folk Style - [192-24]

 

Yim Hok-man - 1998 - Master Of Chinese Percussion [88,2-24]:

Yim Hok-man - Poem of Chinese Drum.wav

 

Some samples from the Norvegian 2L Records - [192-24]:

Simple Symphony  op. 4 - Boisterous Bourree (192 kHz).wav
Joseph Haydn (1732-1809) - String Quartet In D, Op. 76, No. 5 - Finale - Presto.wav

Vivaldi - Recitative and Aria from Cantata RV 679.wav

 

Some Grover Washington, Jr. Vinyl rip - [192-24]:

Grover Washington, Jr. - Just The Two of Us.wav
Grover Washington, Jr. - Mister Magic.wav

 


Thank you for your impressions. To me the CK4 seems to be a good T51 competitor.

post #128 of 268
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone for keeping the thread alive, and especially to Bitlisz for his first impressions after biting the bullet.

 

I'd like to give a few snippets from the japanese blogs I've been referring to previously, as we begin to get some solid reviews now. As a first step I think it's interesting to note that both bloggers seem to consider the CK4 as better than an iMod. The next step for both of them is the T51, as the T51 and CK4 are competing at almost the same price point. Regarding this particular comparison the judgement is a bit more nuanced, with one blogger putting them at the same level, while the other is seeing an advantage for the T51. I guess the portable amp synergies could explain this difference, but that's a guess.

 

All in all it seems to me that we're seeing the same progression curve as the T51, with some kind of a half-baked firmware within the first batch, and some obvious needs for improvements, as shown in Bitlisz's impressions and emails to the manufacturer. However if Colorfly doesn't step on its tail, that could prove to be a worthy competitor for the T51/S:Flo2. Now it may be some time before we actually get to know wether or not it's a worthy competitor for HifiMan's H60x.

 

I'm still curious to see what the CK4 16Gb can improve on the 8Gb, if it improves anything at all.  

post #129 of 268

thnx for the info smile.gif

post #130 of 268

I just add some more thing:

 

Actually find out how the User EQ works, so ok now, but the adjusting steps are not enough.

The sound with the IEM (Audio-Technica ATH-CKM55) is the best, it is transparent and detailed, with enough bass.

I really enjoy it, day-by-day better.

The bigger headphone just simply not ok with that (I heard that soundig better), soon will have one desktop amp for that.

Also I ordered 32GB class4 microSD, I hope this works with the unit.

post #131 of 268

just got mine today after a long wait. im struggling right now, cant find the eq set up. i checked the settings a lot of times but failed to see the eq set up. im using visang r03 and its working fine except for the minor problem that i mentioned.

post #132 of 268

Where can you buy one of these?

post #133 of 268

I bought from Jaben for 1200HKD + 320HKD for Fedex to Hungary (SUM ~196USD).

(+ I payed +25% VAT here + the VAT handling...SUM ~70USD)

You can find on taobao too, if you trust in that or you can manage that...

post #134 of 268

the preset EQ is not functioning but even at normal , ck4 can deliver. user eq is functioning but i didnt try. im satisfied, i mean very satisfied even without equalizer, not a big deal. this amazing player is only available in china for 799 yuan(122 usd). yes, i bought this from a trusted seller in taobao.


Edited by airomjosh - 4/9/11 at 2:46am
post #135 of 268

As I posted before, the Preset EQ and the User EQ works. I takes a while to find out how...

During playback push the menu button, in this menu booth << and >> and VolUp/Down work.

Then select by Play button what you like (Normal/Rock/Pop/Classic/Bass/Jazz/User EQ/3D/LEQ).

These Preset EQs does not suitable for my need (as in any device...), but maybe there are somebody who likes them.

In the User EQ menu for the band selection (80/300/1K/3K/15K) use I<< and >>I,

to increase/decrease (from 0 to +/-12dB in 3-3steps, like 4dB?) them

use the VolUp/VolDown then confirm at the end with the Play button (does not need to confirm by every band, only at the end).

The EQ menu does not support "preview", only after you confirm the selection by Play button.

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