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post #6811 of 6817

I have to say I like to play my music loud but 100db and 15db bass boost is definitely over the top. 


I haven't detected any distortion on the HD 598 Cs at any volume my ears can tolerate for more than 10 seconds.

post #6812 of 6817
Originally Posted by GoodBoy View Post

I found some interesting news. According to some headphone store representative, the open HD598 are being discontinued look in the comment section in this 599s review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3CfC5Jqnk


I'm pretty sure everyone aware of the new HD5x9 line knows about HD5x8 being discontinued.   ;)

post #6813 of 6817
Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post


I'm pretty sure everyone aware of the new HD5x9 line knows about HD5x8 being discontinued.   ;)

Yes, but the question is when.  When will Sennheiser stop making them and when will the last batch be on retailers shelves?

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Originally Posted by Arniesb View Post

Lower end Sennheisers have this problem. My first Sennheiser hd449 was rattling with bass heavy content, especially with action movies with heavy sub bass scenes. With eq it was horrible. HD598 also had this. Dt990 had this, but at really high wolumes or with heavy sub bass content. T1 maybe rattled if i remember correctly if you push them to the very extreme volumes. HD8 DJ, HD650 and HD800S was never rattled even with extreme scenarios like +15db bass boost + Fiio e12 bass boost and with a wolume at above 100db. HD598 drivers doesnt have big excursion or simply put drivers didnt have much space to move inside.

I second that on 449....they rattled when they are driven beyond a point. But the 429s took them and even better than 449,the soundstage,openess etc,imo.
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post


And we have a winner! Congrats to  KopaneDePooj  for deciphering Head-Fi!

That too, we aaall have problems :L3000:

post #6816 of 6817

These 598c can blow my eardrums at 25+ out of my PC and 50+ out of my phone. The first day I got them I raised the volume a bit too much (25 to 30 out of my PC with loud music) and I felt my ears a bit clogged the entire following day.


This guy who used max volume and +15db on bass is probably deaf now.


By the way I'm starting to like them to be honest. I used nothing but these for a week and I think I appreciate the soundstage and crisper sound. I still find the volume either too harsh or too low. I can't find a middle ground for some reason. Maybe because I'm not used to this kind of sound that's heavier on the mids.


By the way I tried the bass test on http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php and I don't have any rattle on mine. I even tried maxing the volume (of course I wasn't keeping the headphones on during this test) and I didn't hear any rattle.

Edited by MRK1 - Yesterday at 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by thekenta View Post

Anyone else experiencing bass problems with the regular HD 598?

Whenever I crank up the volumes, the bass starts overpowering the song and distorting the vocals, it's super strange.
I had the same thing when I first ordered the headphones a year ago. Sent them back because I thought the drivers were damaged and got refunded.

Now I tried to give them another chance and the same problem occurs which makes me think this is something common, but I've never read anything on this forum about it.


What type of distortion are we talking about here?  I've never heard my open 598 SE buzz or "fart" like a woofer does when overwhelmed with bass.  With a woofer, you get those nasty noises when the cone reaches past its excursion limits and slaps the voice coil behind it.  Headphone drivers are designed differently, and while some of them do create this obvious, buzzy, over-excursion distortion when pushed too hard, I have never heard my 598 cans do this.  


There is no doubt in my mind that the 598 DOES DISTORT when challenged by very loud, bassy material. But the way the 598 distorts is pretty elegant...what I experience is not buzzy at all.  It's more like a compression of the sound.  If you know what a hard limiter plugin sounds like...think of that.  It's just like the amplitude of the bass hits a ceiling, so that much of the bass information beyond that point will be lost.  Higher on up the frequency spectrum, there is similar a loss of precision and detail.  I believe this is because the driver is vibrating so much, and dedicating so much of it's surface area to try to produce the bass, that it can't really render the mids or even the treble with precision either.


So listen for a compression of the bass amplitude along with a muddying of detail, which extends up the frequency spectrum to some degree.  That's how the 598 distorts to my ears.


At moderate listening levels and with decent amping, I think the 598 handles bass well, even though there isn't much low bass without the help of EQ.  I enjoy a 3 dB boost via a low shelf at 50 or 60 Hz.  Even with the boost, the 598 won't distort until the volume is cranked high.  And, yeah, I suppose if you set your volume to deafening leavels, I assume even the buzz-averse 598 would enter the farty bass territory, as any driver of any type probably will.  Never tried it!

Edited by stellarelephant - Yesterday at 4:20 pm
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