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Originally Posted by Headstar View Post
 

No cracking has been reported for over two years now. I think it's safe to buy. :wink_face:

Totally! i never knew that it had a problem.. Truth is, i did not knew of their existence until one year ago..

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Regarding Senn HD598 unofficial replacement cables that have the 3 discrete contacts at the 2.5mm headphone end...Posting this to the impressions thread as this original thread is quite old. My apologies in advance but really curious about this issue. This posting was from the HD598 replacement cable thread

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/645819/sennheiser-5x8shortcable-with-3-5mm-plug-now-available-for-hd-5x8-owners/30#post_11636387

 

that faded out in Aug 2014. Quote:

Originally Posted by oldogee View Post
 

For sure it will work electrically BUT, if you look at this (and many other so called Sennheiser cable replacements) bayonet plug that plugs into the headphones you will notice that the 3.5 mm connector barrel only has three discrete contacts versus the 4 that are on the original Sennheiser cable. This means that instead of having two separate two conductor pairs that connect together in the 3.5mm connector at the source, one of each of the conductors in the pair are connected in the headphone socket. So what you say? With a nominal 50 ohm earphone impedance, sharing even a meter of common return wires reduces the channel separation and could increase crosstalk. Maybe not important for you but if you are driving these phones from a no compromise DAC and headphone amp, why risk degrading the sound of these incredible headphones? It would be better to just cut off the plug from the stock cable, make it whatever length you want and then reconnect the wires to a 3.5mm or 1/4" plug so that the two sommon wires are connected there, keeping the headphone wire pairs separate all the way to the headphones. Capice?


I realize this thread is old but I had a question that no one seems to have addressed since the above posting from oldogee:

 

I know that the official Sennheiser HD598 replacement cable (5X8ShortCable) has the 4 discrete contacts on the 2.5mm bayonet headphone side and this matches the stock cable that comes with the unit. But I notice that many folks purchase one of the many Chinese replacement cables which have only the standard 3 contacts on both ends and are quite happy with them.

 

I was wondering, does having the 4 discrete contacts on the 2.5mm plug on the headphone end make a true difference in peoples' experience? Or is it just more theoretical? I mean if Senn's official cables have the 4 on the 2.5mm end why don't the unofficial replacement cables have them too? Probably a cost and hassle issue? Any insight appreciated..


Edited by BobSmith8901 - Yesterday at 8:03 am
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Would the HD598 be preferable over the HD600 for gaming?

 

Thanks.

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I realize this thread is old but I had a question that no one seems to have addressed since the above posting from oldogee:

 

I know that the official Sennheiser HD598 replacement cable (5X8ShortCable) has the 4 discrete contacts on the 2.5mm bayonet headphone side and this matches the stock cable that comes with the unit. But I notice that many folks purchase one of the many Chinese replacement cables which have only the standard 3 contacts on both ends and are quite happy with them.

 

I was wondering, does having the 4 discrete contacts on the 2.5mm plug on the headphone end make a true difference in peoples' experience? Or is it just more theoretical? I mean if Senn's official cables have the 4 on the 2.5mm end why don't the unofficial replacement cables have them too? Probably a cost and hassle issue? Any insight appreciated..

You have 3 connectors on the plug you put into your device, right?

 

Having 4 on that end is to enable usage of balanced, if it was implemented. Otherwise, it is not really a help. The connectrs on the wider part are both groun ones in normal headphones. In balanced module, they are cold signals.

 

I think that most people will hear no difference between having one or two connectors there, both contain the same signal, ground signal.

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Originally Posted by Draulius View Post
 

Would the HD598 be preferable over the HD600 for gaming?

 

Thanks.

They have different signatures, you need an amp for hd600. 

 

both have smooth treble, nice mids, and good bass, but i think that I would need to ask you what do you want to hear in gaming, soundstage wise both are very good and similar, with the upper hand going to hd600. 

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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post
 

You have 3 connectors on the plug you put into your device, right?

 

Having 4 on that end is to enable usage of balanced, if it was implemented. Otherwise, it is not really a help. The connectrs on the wider part are both groun ones in normal headphones. In balanced module, they are cold signals.

 

I think that most people will hear no difference between having one or two connectors there, both contain the same signal, ground signal.


Thanks for the reply. I guess what I'm asking is, on a given HD598 cable, is having the 4 contacts on the 2.5mm headphone end and 3 on the 3.5mm device end, the way Sennheiser has built the original and short replacement cables,  necessary for a 3rd party replacement cable?

 

In other words, are you going to have a degraded signal if the unofficial replacement cables have 3 contacts on both ends vs the Sennheiser design. Note: I think I've actually seen a Chinese replacement that had the 4 contacts on the 3.5mm device plug end with 3 on the 2.5mm headphone end.

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Originally Posted by BobSmith8901 View Post
 


Thanks for the reply. I guess what I'm asking is, on a given HD598 cable, is having the 4 contacts on the 2.5mm headphone end and 3 on the 3.5mm device end, the way Sennheiser has built the original and short replacement cables,  necessary for a 3rd party replacement cable?

 

In other words, are you going to have a degraded signal if the unofficial replacement cables have 3 contacts on both ends vs the Sennheiser design. Note: I think I've actually seen a Chinese replacement that had the 4 contacts on the 3.5mm device plug end with 3 on the 2.5mm headphone end.

you are going to hear exactly the same thing if there are 3 connectors on one of the plugs, it conducts the same signal. 

 

I think that there should be other things to be taken into account too, like cable itself, impedance of cable, that might change the sound more than the number of connectors:D

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Can anyone comment if the 598 is compatible with the brainwavz memory foam ear-pads ?

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Originally Posted by BobSmith8901 View Post

 

I was wondering, does having the 4 discrete contacts on the 2.5mm plug on the headphone end make a true difference in peoples' experience? Or is it just more theoretical? I mean if Senn's official cables have the 4 on the 2.5mm end why don't the unofficial replacement cables have them too? Probably a cost and hassle issue? Any insight appreciated..

 

Don't worry about it. The stock TRRS plug simply means that the return channel for the L/R drivers are fed to two different poles. In theory this would provide less chance of feedback that can contaminate the sound. In practice having both the L/R return channels being fed to one pole on a TRS plug or two in a TRRS makes no differences since they are both connected to the same wire at the source plug (or after the poles) anyway.

 

:beerchug:

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Can anyone comment if the 598 is compatible with the brainwavz memory foam ear-pads ?

Out of curiosity why do you want to switch the pads? And for your question I would say no being the 598 pads click onto the headphoNe rather than resting in a groove like every other headphone I know of. But I can't say no based off experience I just don't see how it would work
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Originally Posted by Davidtech View Post
 

Can anyone comment if the 598 is compatible with the brainwavz memory foam ear-pads ?

the HD518,558 and 598 have proprietary plastic rings stick to the earpads which click onto the earcup, so it pretty much means you can't swap earpads out with anything else

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Well thank you both very kindly for the prompt response :)

 

Addressing frosty first I thought about the ear pad switch because after about five to six hours of use I find myself

adjusting the headphone cups ever slightly for better comfort. But all things considered on how wonderful the 598's are

this is a relatively minor observation as this could be more than likely the OCD part of me wishing for perfect pillows on my head.

 

Also thanks streetdragon for the input; I can certainly see why this couldn't be possible with that click mechanism. But as mentioned

the headphones are already very comfortable as they are and thinking about this even more carefully I would imagine going to a

different type of ear-pad could manipulate the sound in a negative way...............so blast the idea.

 

 

Oh but before I go I'd like to share something. Listening to these cans for about three weeks now I found there's nothing quite like

having green tea while listening to the well mastered 

 

8Dio Studio Sopranos: "Rolling Hills" by Mike Hastings

https://soundcloud.com/8dawn/8dio-studio-sopranos-rolling-hills-by-mike-hastings

 

and

 

3D Sound - 

Binaural Recording of a Musical Performance (feat. Peter and Kerry)

https://youtu.be/itLxXeyM2aM

 

Enjoy :)

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