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post #3871 of 3983
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Originally Posted by Garraty View Post
 

The drivers need time to settle in and that's why it may rattle. I believe that's normal as mine did the same thing for the first 150 hours or so and then stopped.

 

Hope that helped.

I hope so, because it has come back. Do you hear a buzzing in the right ear? I get it from like 200hz-60hz - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwrbFj9r10Y

 

Taking off the pads now to tighten everything.... still there


Edited by MrGoat - 8/22/14 at 9:32am
post #3872 of 3983

Tested it- I hear no buzzing whatsoever in either ear. But my HD598's are more than six months old and like I said, just give it time. If the problem still persists, I'm sure Sennheiser customer service will give you a replacement.

post #3873 of 3983
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Originally Posted by Garraty View Post
 

Tested it- I hear no buzzing whatsoever in either ear. But my HD598's are more than six months old and like I said, just give it time. If the problem still persists, I'm sure Sennheiser customer service will give you a replacement.

I feel like it is getting worse the more I play that video, so thats probably not a good sign. Well I still have 25 days from amazon to either get a refund or replacement, can't decide which to do.

post #3874 of 3983

Did you check for hairs on the driver? You need to pop the pads off and unscrew the driver to verify this. Gently blow air on them and see if it fix your problem.


Edited by Rem0o - 8/22/14 at 9:47am
post #3875 of 3983

Is it safe to bay this on ebay? I

have read, that it is some fake out there,

have someone get them on ebay?

and how much you pay for them

I have one who want 208 USD inkl shipping

from China

post #3876 of 3983
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Originally Posted by Rem0o View Post
 

Did you check for hairs on the driver? You need to pop the pads off and unscrew the driver to verify this. Gently blow air on them and see if it fix your problem.

Just tried this, blew on front and back of driver with an air can. No help. Sounds the same. :(

 

Also, with repeated testing of this same frequency over and over again, the buzzing has started in the left ear as well, not as loud and obvious as in the right, but definitely there.

 

I listen to things at a loud volume, but definitely not breaking drivers loud. Am I unlucky? I cant decide to replace this pair with another 598 or some 6xx model. I really want clear sound, not buzzing noises.

 

*edit* Yeah, bass sounds fine, so I don't think its a blown out speaker. Its anything now from 200hz-65hz ish

 

*edit* I'm going to run some pink/brown/white noise for a bit to see if it'll fix itself.


Edited by MrGoat - 8/22/14 at 10:30am
post #3877 of 3983
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Originally Posted by hellstens View Post
 

Is it safe to bay this on ebay? I

have read, that it is some fake out there,

have someone get them on ebay?

and how much you pay for them

I have one who want 208 USD inkl shipping

from China


I wouldn't buy anything from China. They have 598's on Amazon for $181 right now.

 

 

*edit* Also on my problem, the buzzing is definitely the worst at around 150hz- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVu99mgBtok

Can someone with 598's verify they get a clear tone from that video, if so I'll give the 598's one last shot I guess and replace them. If the 598's cant produce a super clean tone I might as well try out the 600's next.

 

 

*edit2* With this prime trial, it was free saturday delivery on the return so I might as well get a replacement to be safe. I'll post here with my findings. 


Edited by MrGoat - 8/22/14 at 11:27am
post #3878 of 3983

The problem is, they DON'T ship to Thailand :-( and if they do, it cost almost same as the headphones.lol

post #3879 of 3983
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Originally Posted by MrTechAgent View Post
 

 

Don't blame yourself , as it goes up at every 10hz increment (Increase in Volume) the left cup seems to be affected the most , the right cup has that too... just a bit less

I have some friends over at Senn so I might be able to get a replacement but I think its a common problem , some of my Mid-Fi open headphones  have it too , it doesn't sound like plastic resonance , I'm certain its the membrane being over-driven by the magnet , also the volumes are a bit high - not too high though , I might try my friend's 598 before I go to RMA 

I was expecting robust drivers Senn is known for , I will never know why this problem persists in Mid-Fi OBs 

 

 

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Originally Posted by MrTechAgent View Post
 

So after more testing , I have concluded that the driver is not defective , its the freaking baffle and the cone retention , its obvious ...if the driver was defective there should be some mortal breakup which is not exactly the case here , the retention is solid plastic unlike the 6XX series which has more space between the membrane , also that's made of some type composite which is acoustically treated to absorb any resonance the driver is producing , it makes more sense because I have a Brainwavz HM5 which is a copy of the Senn Baffle design but with the same retention composite as the 6XX , that is why its so solid and never rattles , all makes sense  ...the 598 is a inferior design 

 

 



650 Composite 

 

 

HM5 composite 

 

 

All of this aside , they sound fantastic just like any other 598 , just at volumes over listening levels the driver kinda takes a beating  

EDIT 1 - Gave mine in for replacement 

 

 

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Originally Posted by MrTechAgent View Post
 

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Got a replacement and it still distorts , what a piece of sh** ..worst buy ever 

Again sorry for being so pedantic but this is just ridiculous , its poorly engineered ..eye opener for a Senn , I'm not here to sugar-coat , just being honest the 598 sucks , the 6XX is a better value , even the dt880 and the HM5 which has better control and is free of distortions , can't believe no one here talked about this serious issue 

 

Here's the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHkhgMETZvU ....yeah I know its inverted (Sorry about that) 

 

Ah, so this is my problem I guess. Although I don't listen to music as loud as that video link. Well I guess I'll try my replacement pair, if the problem persists, I'll try the 600 as it looks like it has a similar sound signature just higher fidelity.


Edited by MrGoat - 8/22/14 at 1:11pm
post #3880 of 3983
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Originally Posted by MrGoat View Post
 

Well bad news, a buzzing has developed in the right ear on my HD 598's. I contacted to get a refund, I don't know if I should try again with the 598s or go for the higher up models.

 

I noticed it while listening to this song, the bassline has a buzzing in the right ear which I dont hear on other headphones. I don't think it is the recording- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I_005cc4vk

 

I'd be curious to see if anyone else has this issue.

 

*edit* After doing the old Nintendo trick (blowing on the drivers), I think it fixed it. It isn't there anymore, so I'm going to hope it was hair or dust on the driver.

No bazzing to my but if i was considering other headphones i would go with 1 cable in each phone since i find there is difference on the sound. the left is more powerfull on the movies


Edited by Vasiliosn - 8/22/14 at 4:29pm
post #3881 of 3983
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Originally Posted by Vasiliosn View Post
 

No bazzing to my but if i was considering other headphones i would go with 1 cable in each phone since i find there is difference on the sound. the left is more powerfull on the movies

Yeah I've noticed that the right ear has way brighter cymbals, while the left ear has more impact on the Bass. I'm really hoping its a faulty pair of headphone, I have a new pair of 598's which should be here shortly. I'm hoping for the best.

post #3882 of 3983

The problem is the excursion factor .....that's the word I have been trying to find forever , let me explain 

Excursion Factor = Driver's speed to keep up with the low frequencies , SPL is not the word , max SPL results in breakup , excursion isn't breakup , the resonating frequency of the 598 is at 60Hz at XXdb , I don't know that exact number but its very low , the 6XX is free of those distortions , the 6XX series have fabulous excursion factor just like the hd800 , 598s are just horrible , I think those should retail for $80 , Beyer DT models , Brainwavz HM5s etc just blow them out of the water in terms of excursion factor and fidelity for the similar money 

 

Its one of those peculiarities I have observed with many open mid-fi dynamics , for the people who say they don't hear that on their 598 don't know what they are talking about unless "BURN-IN" increased their excursion factor , there is a cure though , that cure is "Output Impedance" , I have heard significant improvements from a amp with a OI of 10ohms to one with 0.1 , it will not eliminate it but surely decrease it , that's because the amp is trying to drive the voice coils with full control , more the control over the coil let's just say "refined" the membrane movement is

 

I have spent many months figuring this out , if you want to solve this issue throw the 598 or give it away and get a real headphone like a Beyer DT or the 6XX which are significantly superior to the 598 tonally as well as technically , the 598 was a waste of my time ......I am ready to be flamed by the fans now :P 

 

Good luck MrGoat !

post #3883 of 3983

Just got the replacement pair, no buzz in the right ear, all is well! Tested a bunch of different sounds and songs and the faint buzzing is not in this pair, so I'll for sure be keeping them!

post #3884 of 3983
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Originally Posted by MrGoat View Post
 

Just got the replacement pair, no buzz in the right ear, all is well! Tested a bunch of different sounds and songs and the faint buzzing is not in this pair, so I'll for sure be keeping them!

 

Play this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJCHeEQV454

 

What are you using ? 
Play at a relatively high volume , there comes the rattle ....

post #3885 of 3983
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Originally Posted by MrTechAgent View Post
 

 

Play this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJCHeEQV454

 

What are you using ? 
Play at a relatively high volume , there comes the rattle ....

 No rattle yet, but I'm not going past half way on my magni dial tho, I tested this with my other pair, it really doesn't get much louder past a certain point. I mean these are only 50 impedance. But I can say that listening to a loud listening volume (not painful to listen to loud), there is no distortion or buzzing in any of the tracks that have been posted. I assume you're talking about the kick drum in the song you linked right? It's sounds like not the best sample of a kick drum imo, but still there is not the distinct buzzing that I heard on the last pair.

 

The last pair wasn't even a buzzing you could hear the driver just making a noise that shouldn't be there, a buzz is just the closest word I could think of. It wasn't a distortion of sound, but an addition of a high pitched just **** noise. Hard to describe. This pair does not have it at all though. 


Edited by MrGoat - 8/23/14 at 7:51am
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