recently I'm looking for a pair of high end headphone for my classical stuff, what I'm looking at right now are senn hd650 or beyer dt880 250ohm. Can any bro give me some brief ideas on these two headphones and which one should I go for ? thanks very much !
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Choice for classicalpost #1 of 132/21/11 at 1:59amThread Starter
Gear mentioned in this thread:post #2 of 132/21/11 at 4:57am
You'll definitely want the HD650, which is balanced for a natural, concert hall sound. The DT880 is just too bright, as the graph shows. (There are different versions, but all show a similar lift in the treble). Trust me, for classical go the HD650.post #3 of 132/21/11 at 5:11ampost #4 of 132/21/11 at 5:15ampost #5 of 132/21/11 at 9:39am
K701 is great with classical, acoustic folk etc., and acoustic jazz music. K701 has great soundstage, detail, and clarity. K701 > HD 600 for classical. HD 600 is ok for classical but doesn't give anything special. It's more of an all arounder. Realize that K701 is bass-light and is not well suited for popular/electrically amplified music. It also needs to be paired with a good amplifier or it doesn't sound so good. But if you listen primarily to classical, you can do a lot worse in this price range.post #6 of 132/21/11 at 3:24pm
Guys, you may like your 701s but they're too controversial. I hated them, finding them plasticky and thin. For a newbie looking for a good safe choice 650s is the way to go. Not only is it the best intro to high-end sound, but if he doesn't like them he can re-sell for very little loss.post #7 of 132/21/11 at 4:37pmTry the HD-600. It might sound "boring" at first, but you really need to listen to it for awhile before you realize how little it does wrong. Often, the best gear fails to impress at first, because there are no colorations that stick out. People get excited about colorations and decide to buy. Then they get tired of the colorations and decide that they need something more expensive. But the upgrade cycle doesn't really end until you find peace with something neutral. Sometimes, it'll take years and a lot of gear before you get there.
The HD-650 is quite good, but tipped slightly towards the dark. It's even-handed all around, but darker than it should be. Not to complain too much, since I think the HD-650 is quite good.
The DT880 is more forward and has an emphasis on the highs and lows at the expense of the mids. It is a good headphone and I enjoyed owning it.
The K-701 has some real problems in the mids. I think AKG voiced it wrong. Vocals, especially, do not sound right. If you want an AKG, try to find a used K-501. It sounds very natural while the K-701 does not. Most of the K-701's biggest fans haven't heard the old AKGs. Compared to the K-501, K-340, K-240DF, and K-1000 (all of which I own, except the K-501, which I sold after owning around three years), the K-701 sounds unnatural. I never could get used to the vocals, which is why I sold the K-701. The K-501 was sold to fund the HD-800 (love it) and because the K-501's sound signature is close to the K-1000, which I kept.post #8 of 132/21/11 at 4:42pmQuote:Originally Posted by V-DiV
K701 is great with classical, acoustic folk etc., and acoustic jazz music. K701 has great soundstage, detail, and clarity. K701 > HD 600 for classical. HD 600 is ok for classical but doesn't give anything special. It's more of an all arounder. Realize that K701 is bass-light and is not well suited for popular/electrically amplified music. It also needs to be paired with a good amplifier or it doesn't sound so good. But if you listen primarily to classical, you can do a lot worse in this price range.
Agree on the K-702, but all of this nice hps will need some amp.post #9 of 132/21/11 at 4:48pmpost #10 of 132/21/11 at 7:32pm
The HD 600 would be ideal however, it is important to know what amplifier you will use. I own the HD 650 with the ALO SXC 18awg cable and the majority of recordings I listen to are classical (chamber/ violin) and would still opt for the HD 600. In fact, I may order the HD 600 again for their superior accuracy.
iDesignpost #11 of 132/21/11 at 8:17pm
I own both the DT-880 Pro 250 and HD650's and I will summarize if I can. The DT-880s have incredible imaging, crispness, as well as low-end extension, but the soundstage I find to be intimate and forward, like you are sitting with the orchestra. Some people will enjoy this, I do for chamber music where the sound is light and intimate to start with. However, I find them to be a bit too forward for more dynamic symphonic albums. There is too much impact and they can become fatiguing.
This is where the 650s shine. They take a step back from the action and you feel that you have a wider soundstage and more room for the orchestra. The imaging is quite good, maybe a little bit less air between the instruments. They may be a tad dark depending on your source, but some will argue that this can be solved with an aftermarket cable (I have a Cardas cable and am very happy with it). They are a grand headphone and I have a soft spot for them as my first "audiophile" headphone. They are have similar extension to the 880s but less punch, very smooth highs and relatively balanced overall. It is also a spectacular performer as an all around. I can play chamber music, orchestral, opera, hip hop, electronic, metal, jazz, you name it, the Senns do it pretty well.
I do think you would need an amp for either of these hp though. I ran my 650s quite well off of a little Cmoy before I got a decent amp, and they scale very well.
just my 2cents!post #12 of 132/21/11 at 9:34pm
This may be an obvious suggestion, and echoing Erik, but I'm going to say it anyway: consider a used AKG K 501. They were made for classical music, but discontinued now.
They have been going for less than 100 euros used on eBay, and while I haven't heard the HD650, the 501 were absolutely golden for classical when I used them for that purpose.post #13 of 132/21/11 at 11:34pmThread StarterWell thanks all of you..I've tried those hps before, k701, hd650, dt880. I hv to say it's between hd650 and dt880. For dt880, I really do like its analytical sound, but it just lacks some classical feeling. Reason for considering the dt is becoz I'm using er4s atm, gives me similar sound quality. For hd650, it really gives me some nice experiences. But after these discussions, I think I should try to find a pair of k501.
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