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Sennheiser HD 650 for PC = Overkill?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

I'm planning on buing headphones for use with my PC.

As I have quite nice budget I was planning to buy HD 650.

On my stationary PC I have: Creative Labs SB0886 PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Sound Card to pair with my Logitech Z-5500.

 

Do you think I will get sound worth the money of HD 650 or would it be just overkill (?) as I'm NOT PLANNING to buy any AMP + DAC in the nearest future.

 

Please advice me, as I did not find any post matching my question (usually people were just asking for heaphones to PC with some weak soundcards). But if I missed some relevant topics please just paste me a link to it.

 

Thanks in advance, as this subject is in great importance to me.


Ps. Or buing the DENON AH-D2000  would be better idea in my case?

 

I will just add that I appreciate listening to movie soundtracks (Gladiator, Pirates of the Carribean,Transformers, Hancock, lord of the rings) and other choral and orchestral music.

post #2 of 23

Not an overkill

post #3 of 23

I dont think you would get worth just gaming out of a card on the hd650's. Maybe Hd 558 - 595 would better for your uses. I have both and I honestly prefer the 558 for gaming over the 650 due to low power source of signal

post #4 of 23

You need something decent to drive them...

post #5 of 23

I use my HD 650's with my PC every day so they're definitely not overkill. I'm planning on buying LCD2's or HD 800's to use with my computer, actually.

 

You do need decent amplification to drive them, tho. They still sound better unamped than HD 595's for example, but it's a bit of a waste of potential. If you're dead set on not buying a DAC/Amp, I'd spend my money on something that's easier to drive. The Denons are a bit of a mess without an amp too, IMO.

post #6 of 23

You should read the thread about headphones and gaming someone posted they review a ton of different cans.

post #7 of 23

In all honestly you will not be getting what your payed in the hd650's out of a xfi card.  I have an auzentech xfi prelude which is much better than the creative cards, and it doesn't even make my ad700's sound as good as my hrt musicstreamer II+ does.  I've been converted and will no longer be buying soundcards.  Getting your DAC out of your computer is the only way to go.  

post #8 of 23

Get the Essence STX. It drives them nicely. 

post #9 of 23
Thread Starter 

Firstly, thanks for the response, Secondly, I was not planning to buy separate AMP/DAC for my PC for 2 main reasons:

1) Good ones cost A LOT (I'm thinking about the SCHIIT series for example),

2) It's really hard for me to decide which one would suit me the best; as the subject "AMP/DAC for HD650" is just endless (!) and don't bring any answers for me.

 

So, what would you say to me: buy HD650 and it the nearest 6 months save some money for some good stuff (like SCHIIT), or just go for HD 598 (which can be found here where I live for the price of 180$)? [Just for comparison: I have available new HD650 for about 400$]

post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by dzonylan View Post

Firstly, thanks for the response, Secondly, I was not planning to buy separate AMP/DAC for my PC for 2 main reasons:

1) Good ones cost A LOT (I'm thinking about the SCHIIT series for example),

2) It's really hard for me to decide which one would suit me the best; as the subject "AMP/DAC for HD650" is just endless (!) and don't bring any answers for me.

 

So, what would you say to me: buy HD650 and it the nearest 6 months save some money for some good stuff (like SCHIIT), or just go for HD 598 (which can be found here where I live for the price of 180$)? [Just for comparison: I have available new HD650 for about 400$]

 

Actually, acquiring a good DAC/amp for the HD650 is not quite as expensive as you might expect.  How, you ask?  Fiio's E7 and E9 can be had for just over 200 dollars.  The E9 is an excellent desktop amplifier with the power and refinement to match more expensive desktop amplifiers and the E7 is a very competent DAC.  Together they will really bring out the potential of the HD650.  Now if this combination is still outside of your budget then by all means go for the HD598, an excellent 'phone in its own right.

post #11 of 23

I have the fiio E7 & E9 combo and if you go down that route then defo get the hd650's. Big bang for a small buck the fiio's!!

 

You wouldn't regret that choice as a great starter set up!

 

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post #12 of 23

Don't get the HD650 unless you are buying an amp/dac or unless you like really slow and boring headphones

post #13 of 23

I have creative sound card in my laptop and it's not great. My cheap DAC/AMP sounds pretty darn good though. It's not worth it without some kind of external source. The HD 650's aren't boring or slow.

post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post

 The HD 650's aren't boring or slow.



Straight out of a computer?  They're not that bad, but they aren't great either. 

post #15 of 23
Thread Starter 

The Fiio E7 & E9 combo looks nice to me, and the pricing is fine too (for the future of course - because it's additional 250$ for whole set). I will do more research on them though, before deciding :) But it's not like closing the subject, I will gladly listen to what do you have to say in the subject of using HD650 with PC, and some resonable priced AMPs/DACs for PC headphone use. :)

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