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New Cables DIY-er: Quite A Few Clarifications (But Please Don't Be Discouraged to Help)

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

I've recently gotten the urge to start doing audio DIY.

 

The projects I have in mind right now include recabling an old pair of ksc75 which I've recently started using again. These things are just begging for it with such easy access to the solder points.

After using that as some basic practice I'm hoping to swap out the Artlink cable on my AD700's. I'll take the old cable and reterminate with a minijack on the end so I'll have an extra patch cable lying around. Also, my Creative Aurvana Live cable has always seemed very flimsy >_> so that might be something I'll look into also.

Soldering Iron: The problem is I really don't know what materials to use. To be honest I don't even have a soldering iron right now (looking to buy this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009ZD2AG/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER).

 

Solder:  For audio is 97 sn, 2.5 ag, .5 cu what I'm going for? And is that standard for consumer solder (common enough to be picked up at Lowes, Home Depot, etc) or would I have to order it online?


Cable: Mogami is a little more than I wanna spend on beginner projects and I still can't find a decent place to buy <50'. Are navships' cables on eBay good enough to replace the Artlink cable? I know it'll definitely kick stock ksc75's butt. If you have any recommendations please just link me, I really don't understand gauge and it's relation to thickness or any of that enough to shop for myself. I'm open to other places to buy also, but I'm definitely on a budget so I'm hoping not to spend more than ~$30 on cable.

 

Plugs: It seems Neutrik plugs are the standard fare. I came across these http://www.daleproaudio.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=4078&SEName=neutrik-nys231bg-35mm-trs-stereo-plug-blackgold, any good? Was actually hoping for a silver/chrome looking shell rather than black, but beggars can't be choosers, eh?

 

Heatshrink: 2:1 for strain relief at the plugs and 3:1 adhesive for a y-split, correct?

 

Sheathing: For the KSC75's because it is a Y split I'll be sheathing the braided part before the split. For the AD700's I want to do a basic nylon monofilament sheath on the replacement cable. Does it have any effects on dampening microphonics and reducing tangle?

 

AND FINALLY.....a few conceptual questions:

How exactly does the wiring work? Ground? Left +/- Right +/- ?

Are navships' cables single strands that are braided together so 1 is left, another is right?

What exactly do i solder inside the plug? Do I need a multimeter also for this project?

 

Am I stupid? :P

 

 

 

post #2 of 9

 

+ Try the Redco starquad cable, nice and good price, cheaper than the Mogami. http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=937

+ The plug you like is also there http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=305

+ Pay attention to the size of heatshrink too.

+ Nylon sleeve can be bought on small quantity from ebay. 3/16" will fit the cable.

+ L,R,G for the 3.5mm plug, corresponding to tip, ring, sleeve.

+ DMM is really necessary to check for short.

post #3 of 9

Maybe this thread helps a little bit :)

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/533217/cable-braiding-101-please#post_7191360

 

If not feel free to ask :)

post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 

Lil' Knight, the pricing on non-bulk mogami actually isn't that bad on Redco, might consider it after all.

 

So what happens at the y-split will be that I strip the outer shielding and sleeve and braid the 2 sets of 2 cables going into each ear?

 

What are the consequences of a short if I don't use a multimeter? How am I suppose to interpret/know if there's a short? Ahhh I thought I did a lot of background reading, but a lot of common sense electronics DIY just isn't common sense to me

 

And thanks mono for the link, lot of good stuff in the thread :)

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

Anyone there still? haha

post #6 of 9

Well, I just started audio diy myself, and from experience, a DMM makes life 1000x easier. My first few cables did not work out too well as I had no way to test continuity from the three points(L,R,G). My next cable worked beautifully, a 20+ guitar cable for a friends birthday, as the DMM allowed me to check that each point on the plug was correctly connected. Not using the DMM will result in some mistakes, at least from my own adventures. Especially with cables that are already braided and have the same color wires on the inside. The result of shorted wires will cause the cable to not respond and possibly damage equipment(correct if I'm wrong, just speculating). In the long run it is a very useful tool, and you will be glad to have gotten it when you want to make some very nice cables made from some very nice materials, and where precision is required. Good Luck!

post #7 of 9

Regarding soldering irons, check out this recent thread: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/541205/soldering-equipment-for-dummies

post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 

I'm a little to late on the soldering iron station. It's out of stock and I've already ordered the weller one from amazon.

 

The Redco branded quad cable got here today. The guage is way to thick for the sleeve, will have to strip the rubber sleeve on top of the shielding which I'll keep I guess in order to feed it through.

 

post #9 of 9

Definitely buy a DMM. Not only will it be valuable for this project but you will find it useful in the future. Also, I'd recommend a soldering iron that's about 18w for audio applications, I use an Antex. 

 

Oh and buy some flux cored solder.

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