"you can't afford beats, that's why you hate them"
"they don't suck, if you ever listened to a song with base, its like an **** for your ears"
Edited by TopCaliber - 1/26/12 at 2:19am
Ignoring price all together
-I hate the solos, they sound so muddy - but great for portability
-Beats feel flimsy, especially with the battery to add for the noise cancellation part, and they sound Ok, but i prefer my Xb700's
-Beats pros are way too heavy, but sound OK
Also,monster and beats have split up.So we'll see if Beats are still 'top-of-the-line' in the next few years.Like the guys above me said,beats are just a fad and would probably be replaced by another 'premium' brand soon enough.My only hope is that that brand would actually charge their products fairly than having more than 70% of the price be from the Dr Dre name.
I swear both of them were making enough money?
> Science can hold many assertions in regards to facts and such..but it doesn't always cover every single aspect. Going back to headphones here, this could be analogous to the whole lower and sub-sonic frequencies. As stated before, human hearing is within the 20hz-20KHZ frequency.. correct? Yet, sound engineers, audiophiles, professional musicians attest and swear that while the science may hold truth, adding the sub frequency notes actually adds to the whole spectrum of sound; somehow makes it fuller, better and more real and 3 dimensional sounding. And this isn't me stating this, this is a wide consensus... Is that Placebo as-well?
EDIT: Shotor's anti-science sentiments just don't work. I could post a long rant about why, and how this VERY type of ignorance causes a disgusting state of education today, but I won't. I'll simplify it as this: I was once told by someone here on the topic of headphones and digital audio that he "doesn't trust engineers." I hope it's clear that this is not at all unlike a redneck somewhere saying "I don't believe 'cars' exist. I just don't think they do, and nothing you fancy-pancy 'engineers' tell me will change my valid opinion."
EDIT: I included a long rant explaining how frequencies outside of 20hz-20khz can very much effect your hearing and this is well understood scientifically.
Anyway on the topic of placebo, if you think you can tell when it's working on you or not, then I don't think you know what placebo is. By definition, placebo seems indistinguishable from reality. In fact, placebo works even if you KNOW at the time that what you are experiencing is placebo. It's like in the cartoons when the character runs off the cliff and hovers mid-air, until they realize that's not supposed to happen and then fall down -- with placebo when you realize you're hovering in mid-air, you still won't fall down.
I myself have experienced a placebo effect, and trust me that one was not good.
It was a fear of actually having caught malaria, yup, that terminal disease...
After I had gone to Ethiopia, and been bitten by 20+ mosquitoes in a high malaria affected place
I had been and was on a anti-malaria pill, but that only had a 60% effective rate of preventing the disease from contaminating you.
All I can say is, i was lucky. but the placebo effect, made me feel ill for around 5 days after I had been bitten - it was nothing but a light cold, but it felt much worse.
As soon as I got back to the UK i got myself a blood test, saw my GP, and all was good.