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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post


Well. There's one life goal. Convince someone to sell there beloved Bose for a pair of good sounding headphones. Power to you, my friend! L3000.gif

 



This was talked about here about how BOSE is so engrained in people's heads..i just saw it today. The family friend with the BOSE. clearly liked the HFI 580's but was so perplexed...on what was wrong with his Bose :)

 

I was of course almost about to go into good audio files, amping, and how this isn't for everyone..but decided against it :)

THE HFI 580's cover most ground for anyone really. Especially non audiophiles. The bass isn't overwhelming when you don't need it to be but is clearly present and pounds when you need to. the trebles are extremely nice and the highs' are good and aren't harsh :) and there is no annoying sibilance that you find on monitor headphones (*Shure's *cough cough cough*) Overal, add in the fact that I got them for $118 with free 3 day shipping and just how easy they are to amp(even easier than SRH 440's) they are a winner in my book..really $118 for these things? i call steal, of course i made sure to let them all test for a while to see if they prefer the S-Logic sound. they do :)

post #3077 of 5508

and there is no annoying sibilance that you find on monitor headphones (*Shure's *cough cough cough*)

 

The Ultrasone Pro 900 was absolutely the most sibilant headphone I've heard in my entire life, and that includes cheap $5 headphones for comparison. It literally screeched so bad it gave me a physical headache and pain, and my ears were ringing for a while after I took them off.

 

The Shure SRH940 is probably the least sibilant non-laid-back headphone I've heard, with among the smoothest highs (15khz+) I've ever heard, period.

 

Interesting how according to you this reverses for the lower end models of the respective companies. I'm not saying your assessment is wrong, just that you should be careful when generalizing the sound of a single headphone to an entire brand. Otherwise I'd think Sennheiser (HD201...) is absolute crud.


Edited by ac500 - 12/25/11 at 9:14pm
post #3078 of 5508

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Originally Posted by fifaculture View Post

Not called out but a frustrating and very typical post-Christmas conversation on Facebook.

Friend:
Got Studio beats today, couldn't be happier smily_headphones1.gif
3 people like this.

Random guy:
Detox is better

Friend:
So it's better than nothing

Random guy:
what an idiot ^

Ignorance is bliss. This is one of SEVERAL conversations like this. Most are Beats but you've got the Bose ones as well. Sigh...

 

LOL, they argue amongst themselves now? So the studio's just aren't worth the street cred they used to be huh :P

post #3079 of 5508


In the more recent years their sound has gotten worse but the price has been roughly the same. They're still not a terrible value, and the Zep is pretty feature packed...I just wouldn't use any of the features besides the dock.

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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post



 

I think Bowers & Wilkins make some nice sounding products, but IMHO, their products are extremely beautiful and they are very good at marketing, which makes their prices a little higher than they really are worth.
 

 



 

 

post #3080 of 5508

This is definitely the nice thing about owning Pro 900s. People rave about the bass on the beats, but if they try the Ultrasones they soil their pants on command.

 

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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

and there is no annoying sibilance that you find on monitor headphones (*Shure's *cough cough cough*)

 

The Ultrasone Pro 900 was absolutely the most sibilant headphone I've heard in my entire life, and that includes cheap $5 headphones for comparison. It literally screeched so bad it gave me a physical headache and pain, and my ears were ringing for a while after I took them off.

 

The Shure SRH940 is probably the least sibilant non-laid-back headphone I've heard, with among the smoothest highs (15khz+) I've ever heard, period.

 

Interesting how according to you this reverses for the lower end models of the respective companies. I'm not saying your assessment is wrong, just that you should be careful when generalizing the sound of a single headphone to an entire brand. Otherwise I'd think Sennheiser (HD201...) is absolute crud.


??? REally.. well i read headfonia mike's review of the burned in and whatever  940's and heard that they are very sibilant. The 440's and 840's are extremely similar so i was guessing they were all sibilant. i have my shure's burned in over 600+ hours...and boy. those S's and and what nots just want you to go >:( :O !!!!!

 



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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post


In the more recent years their sound has gotten worse but the price has been roughly the same. They're still not a terrible value, and the Zep is pretty feature packed...I just wouldn't use any of the features besides the dock.



 

Yeah, ill just call B&W a Bose and Beats in the same field. the B&W's sound better, but also cost more, so it evens out
 

 



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Originally Posted by pyrokid View Post

This is definitely the nice thing about owning Pro 900s. People rave about the bass on the beats, but if they try the Ultrasones they soil their pants on command.

 


Haha yeah, a lot of beginner audiophiles still haven't heard of ultrasone's though. i didn't back when i was one. when someone recommended me the 580's i was like ultrawho? probably some smal brand no one cares about. boy was i wrong

 



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Originally Posted by Sylverant View Post

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LOL, they argue amongst themselves now? So the studio's just aren't worth the street cred they used to be huh :P



My beats pieces of poo are better than your pieces of poo!

noo!!! my piece of poo is better than that even more piece of poo with lipstick on

no no no. you guys are all noobs, my Bose poo are better than those pieces of poo, you guys don't know audio

 

 

post #3082 of 5508

I made a topic on a gaming site one of my friends likes a lot. The members are almost all teenagers, and I can't say I like the site at all. The time I spend on it is helping people with tech-related stuff since they really need help and few others are actually knowledgeable enough to provide that help. I've gotten a lot of good practice explaining things and dealing with people who are not very technologically inclined. They drive me crazy a lot, but It feels good to help when I have some free time.

 

One thing I noticed is that they're very susceptible to marketing. They rave about Beats, and I'm sure you guys have heard it all by now. I've been sent angry PMs, been flamed countless times resulting in deleted topics and posts, and I've gotten myself quite a reputation. I just keep my cool, and show them why they're wrong without making them feel threatened. Watching them defend Beats is quite comical, actually. Some of the vocabulary they use is just is really funny. Still, I weep for my generation.

 

This topic has gotten much more traffic than I could have ever imagined, and I can safely say that I've turned quite a few people away from Beats, Skullcandies, Bose, and other similar names and showed them the audiophile-approved alternatives. It's mostly low-budget stuff, and I recommend the Meelectronics M6 and Koss Portapro and KSC75 very often. However, occasionally, I get some big budgets! I've recommended people HD650/600s, Ultrasone Pro 900s, Beyerdynamic DT880/990s, Grado SR325is, UE Reference IEMs, and many more (all with proper amplification).

 

I could go on, but this is already a wall of text.

 

TL;DR: I helped a bunch of kids on a gaming forum with their tech questions and problems, and ended up being their "headphone guy." They were all convinced that Beats/Skullcandies/Bose were the best headphones, but I showed them audiophile-approved headphones, and got "called-out" numerous times in the process.

 

Just thought you guys might find this amusing. Poke through the thread and see what I've dealt with! I've put in a lot of time and effort. Page 76 has a pretty good example. Throughout the thread, there's just a consistent frequency of pointless, inane pro-Beats posts.

 

http://www.thetechgame.com/Forums/t=2070772/buying-headphones-get-advice-here.html

post #3083 of 5508
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Originally Posted by r00tb33r View Post

TL;DR: I helped a bunch of kids on a gaming forum with their tech questions and problems, and ended up being their "headphone guy." They were all convinced that Beats/Skullcandies/Bose were the best headphones, but I showed them audiophile-approved headphones, and got "called-out" numerous times in the process.

 



Good job man :) going onto a forum that's all about console gaming and showing people the light is a great thing to do, we at head-fi can't get everybody :) if we can just get more curious teens these days to come and make a account and ask a question. I have never seen a replier troll on someone for mentioning Bose or Beats, or Skullcandies. Extremely polite and informative people here. Most just offer other recommendations and talk of the pro's and cons of the things. Head-Fi...the place to be :)

post #3084 of 5508

I'm actually a little amazed that Beats are as popular as they are, just because Iowa City has been going through a California-esque "Has to be different syndrome" phase these last few years. I guess technically it's just people calling themselves hipsters lovingly, but all they really do is listen to good music and tell everyone who doesn't listen to indie that they're a sellout. Oh, and then they have to dress 'differently' to make sure that they don't blend in. It's weird stuff, but somehow still in the hipster handbook is an exception for Beats. Bummer.

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I'm actually a little amazed that Beats are as popular as they are, just because Iowa City has been going through a California-esque "Has to be different syndrome" phase these last few years. I guess technically it's just people calling themselves hipsters lovingly, but all they really do is listen to good music and tell everyone who doesn't listen to indie that they're a sellout. Oh, and then they have to dress 'differently' to make sure that they don't blend in. It's weird stuff, but somehow still in the hipster handbook is an exception for Beats. Bummer.



yeah i hate that part about hipsters. most aren't hipsters. they just listen to different music. and most hipsters call themsevles geeks...and they don't know the first real thing about computers

 

 one thing an suposed underclassmen hipster said to me" I don't belive in spending so much money for headphones and equipment, i still consider myself an audiophile" .........  he talked of converting his MP3's to FLAC's(stupid stupid stupid, not gonna do anything other than make you seem cool for having .flac at the end) and then he uses regular apple ibuds and what not...jsut no...

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post



yeah i hate that part about hipsters. most aren't hipsters. they just listen to different music. and most hipsters call themsevles geeks...and they don't know the first real thing about computers

 

 one thing an suposed underclassmen hipster said to me" I don't belive in spending so much money for headphones and equipment, i still consider myself an audiophile" .........  he talked of converting his MP3's to FLAC's(stupid stupid stupid, not gonna do anything other than make you seem cool for having .flac at the end) and then he uses regular apple ibuds and what not...jsut no...


 

I just don't understand it at all haha. It's like... Just like what you like. Stop being unnecessarily pretentious or I'll go onto an audiophile forum and rant about you. (Got 'em)

Yeah, that's actually not the first time I've heard of people doing the FLAC thing. One of my best friends has a pair of Bose phones and he'd done that for years until I went over to his house one day when he was doing it and convinced him that his whole life was a lie, and more music data actually could not be created magically just by running songs through Mediamonkey's converter. It's times like this that I have to remind myself that some people might not be spending the sleepy hours of the night up reading about this stuff before I let it go.

post #3087 of 5508
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Originally Posted by r00tb33r View Post

I made a topic on a gaming site one of my friends likes a lot. The members are almost all teenagers, and I can't say I like the site at all. The time I spend on it is helping people with tech-related stuff since they really need help and few others are actually knowledgeable enough to provide that help. I've gotten a lot of good practice explaining things and dealing with people who are not very technologically inclined. They drive me crazy a lot, but It feels good to help when I have some free time.

 

One thing I noticed is that they're very susceptible to marketing. They rave about Beats, and I'm sure you guys have heard it all by now. I've been sent angry PMs, been flamed countless times resulting in deleted topics and posts, and I've gotten myself quite a reputation. I just keep my cool, and show them why they're wrong without making them feel threatened. Watching them defend Beats is quite comical, actually. Some of the vocabulary they use is just is really funny. Still, I weep for my generation.

 

This topic has gotten much more traffic than I could have ever imagined, and I can safely say that I've turned quite a few people away from Beats, Skullcandies, Bose, and other similar names and showed them the audiophile-approved alternatives. It's mostly low-budget stuff, and I recommend the Meelectronics M6 and Koss Portapro and KSC75 very often. However, occasionally, I get some big budgets! I've recommended people HD650/600s, Ultrasone Pro 900s, Beyerdynamic DT880/990s, Grado SR325is, UE Reference IEMs, and many more (all with proper amplification).

 

I could go on, but this is already a wall of text.

 

TL;DR: I helped a bunch of kids on a gaming forum with their tech questions and problems, and ended up being their "headphone guy." They were all convinced that Beats/Skullcandies/Bose were the best headphones, but I showed them audiophile-approved headphones, and got "called-out" numerous times in the process.

 

Just thought you guys might find this amusing. Poke through the thread and see what I've dealt with! I've put in a lot of time and effort. Page 76 has a pretty good example. Throughout the thread, there's just a consistent frequency of pointless, inane pro-Beats posts.

 

http://www.thetechgame.com/Forums/t=2070772/buying-headphones-get-advice-here.html



 

Must admit, that's quite an interesting thread. I'm amused by the little boy who complained about your recommendations and how they're "not well known."

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rootbeer: Thanks for the link, looks like entertaining reading :)

 

bowei: I'm not sure what review you refer to, but me, Malvaux, and countless others find the SRH940 to have incredibly high quality smooth highs. Nothing even remotely sibilant about them. In fact, several people have independently reported the SRH940 to have less sibilance than the Sennheiser HD800.

 

As for the Pro 900, it definitely hurt my ears with extreme sibilance. It was not my imagination. Take that for what it's worth. I'm sure to people less sensitive to upper frequencies, it would be fine (and it sounded detailed and quality highs, so that's good). However honestly the SRH940 still rules as king of exquisite beautiful detailed yet smooth highs, of all the headphones I've extensively tried. 

post #3089 of 5508
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

rootbeer: Thanks for the link, looks like entertaining reading smily_headphones1.gif bowei: I'm not sure what review you refer to, but me, Malvaux, and countless others find the SRH940 to have incredibly high quality smooth highs. Nothing even remotely sibilant about them. In fact, several people have independently reported the SRH940 to have less sibilance than the Sennheiser HD800. As for the Pro 900, it definitely hurt my ears with extreme sibilance. It was not my imagination. Take that for what it's worth. I'm sure to people less sensitive to upper frequencies, it would be fine (and it sounded detailed and quality highs, so that's good). However honestly the SRH940 still rules as king of exquisite beautiful detailed yet smooth highs, of all the headphones I've extensively tried.

Have you tried the HE-6? Countless people have said that headphone boasts some legendary treble. I'd have to try the SRH940 out for myself to see what all the hubbub is about...
post #3090 of 5508
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Originally Posted by pyrokid View Post


 

I just don't understand it at all haha. It's like... Just like what you like. Stop being unnecessarily pretentious or I'll go onto an audiophile forum and rant about you. (Got 'em)

Yeah, that's actually not the first time I've heard of people doing the FLAC thing. One of my best friends has a pair of Bose phones and he'd done that for years until I went over to his house one day when he was doing it and convinced him that his whole life was a lie, and more music data actually could not be created magically just by running songs through Mediamonkey's converter. It's times like this that I have to remind myself that some people might not be spending the sleepy hours of the night up reading about this stuff before I let it go.

hahah,that's what im doing right now. ranting :)

and yeah, one day half a year ago, i also found out that all my ocnverted songs were a lie :(
 

 



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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

rootbeer: Thanks for the link, looks like entertaining reading :)

 

bowei: I'm not sure what review you refer to, but me, Malvaux, and countless others find the SRH940 to have incredibly high quality smooth highs. Nothing even remotely sibilant about them. In fact, several people have independently reported the SRH940 to have less sibilance than the Sennheiser HD800.

 

As for the Pro 900, it definitely hurt my ears with extreme sibilance. It was not my imagination. Take that for what it's worth. I'm sure to people less sensitive to upper frequencies, it would be fine (and it sounded detailed and quality highs, so that's good). However honestly the SRH940 still rules as king of exquisite beautiful detailed yet smooth highs, of all the headphones I've extensively tried. 



http://www.headfonia.com/shure-srh-940-detail-monster/

 

Mike is pretty well known and trusted and has a lot of source materials. again, opinions and ears differ

"Most of the harshness, sibilance, and extreme compression on mainstream recordings will be very audible" 

It's not much but it did mention it and that's what i based it off of. 

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