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post #1831 of 5508

The first song sounds like it's badly recorded. o.o

 

The only bass I like is the bass sound from the bass guitar.

I used to like DnB, dubstep and similar genres but Red Hot Chilli Peppers changed me. 

 

Also, imo, feeling the bass is a much better experience than just hearing it.

I like the rumble and the heart punching feeling good subs and speakers give.

 

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Originally Posted by WhiteCrow View Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a5fhSMsyUA

Shallow bass, lacks any real extension or impact but sounds like bass.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SECssAiwQIo&playnext=1&list=PL561A9F68044F2CB1

Real bass, Extends in both directions, has slam and boom, quality as well and little to no distortion.

 

Testing this song on my friends "SOOOOOO GOOOOD SOUNDING SUBWOOFER" it shoot a mirror off his truck...and sounded like crap.


 

It's kinda hard to believe some youngins would come up to you and start bashing on you when you didn't do anything to them.

Maybe you did something to provoke them? If I were them, and I really wanted to show off Beats, I would go pick on someone 

my own size and tell them about how my Beats ****s on other brands rather than go to someone who's old enough to be my

dad and start telling him how my Beats are 9001x better than his Senns.  

 

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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post




The problem isn't what another person thinks concerning their Beats I don't care what someone buys with their money and nobody else on here should either. The problem is when they get in your face and won't stop making ill informed statements all for the sake of being the head wanna be richie rich homie gangsta amongst his piers. Considering most of these Beats people are young enough to be my kids I find it rather rude that some of them choose to disturb my quiet get lost in my music while I tool around time for the sake of acting like a fool. The dumbest thing about some of these guys is when they really get mouthy and I bring up points like exaggerated bass bloat and mid bass boom that bleeds into the mid frequencies etc to demonstrate I know something about audio and to explain why I prefer listening to what I have they just look at me with a vacant stare like I'm speaking Chinese and then have the nerve to say get a life dude we're talking music not frequencies which is even more rude. Understand where me and others on here are coming from now?

 


 

 


Edited by koolkat - 8/23/11 at 5:10am
post #1832 of 5508
Quote:koolkat

It's kinda hard to believe some youngins would come up to you and start bashing on you when you didn't do anything to them.

Maybe you did something to provoke them? If I were them, and I really wanted to show off Beats, I would go pick on someone 

my own size and tell them about how my Beats ****s on other brands rather than go to someone who's old enough to be my

dad and start telling him how my Beats are 9001x better than his Senns.  

 


 

It happened roughly 5 months ago, I was sitting in a mall food court and had just finished eating and was just sitting there looking out the window with my Grado SR60i's on. Two tables over there was a group of 5 kids all roughly about 15 years old and one of them had a pair of Solos. The kid with the Solo's came over and asked what kind of headphones I was wearing and further commented he had never seen Grado's before. I told them what they were and the kid then proceeded to hold up his Solo's and say see these they're called Beats. Beats are the top of the line when it comes to headphones you should try them out sometime. I then answered I had and further indicated I wasn't into overly bassy headphones and preferred a more brighter sound. He just stood there looking at me all puzzled, I'm guessing he didn't know what I meant by brighter, and answered the bass on these are completely bad ass man you'll really love how crazy music sounds on here. I then said I didn't like the bass on the Solo's (see earlier post above for specifics as to why ) and he continues to look at me like I'm talking some weird martian dialect and proceeds to blurt out dude I'm talking music not frequencies who cares about frequencies get a life. He then goes back to his gaggle of homies (which was the only smart thing he did through the whole interaction) and proceeds to blurt out "check out that plastic hunk of junk that dude is wearing. Can you believe he doesn't like Beats? I guess when somebody can't afford quality haters will be haters" It was about then I waved over a security guard and had the idiots tossed out of the food court for acting like idiots.

 

That's the complete story, why the kid seemed hell bent to show off his Solo's to me and grand stand over them I have no clue whatsoever. The group of kids involved I would put at maybe 15 or 16 years of age. I'm 40 I don't bother concerning myself with what other people's kids are doing. If I choose to engage someone especially a stranger usually it's someone around my own age or at the very least someone old enough to shave. I especially don't concern myself with the latest fads the teen crowd is into Beats being one of them.


Edited by DigitalFreak - 8/23/11 at 7:37am
post #1833 of 5508
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post



 "check out that plastic hunk of junk that dude is wearing. Can you believe he doesn't like Beats? I guess when somebody can't afford quality haters will be haters" 



He mustn't have an irony bone in his body.

post #1834 of 5508
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post



It happened roughly 5 months ago, I was sitting in a mall food court and had just finished eating and was just sitting there looking out the window with my Grado SR60i's on. Two tables over there was a group of 5 kids all roughly about 15 years old and one of them had a pair of Solos. The kid with the Solo's came over and asked what kind of headphones I was wearing and further commented he had never seen Grado's before. I told them what they were and the kid then proceeded to hold up his Solo's and say see these they're called Beats. Beats are the top of the line when it comes to headphones you should try them out sometime. I then answered I had and further indicated I wasn't into overly bassy headphones and preferred a more brighter sound. He just stood there looking at me all puzzled, I'm guessing he didn't know what I meant by brighter, and answered the bass on these are completely bad ass man you'll really love how crazy music sounds on here. I then said I didn't like the bass on the Solo's (see earlier post above for specifics as to why ) and he continues to look at me like I'm talking some weird martian dialect and proceeds to blurt out dude I'm talking music not frequencies who cares about frequencies get a life. He then goes back to his gaggle of homies (which was the only smart thing he did through the whole interaction) and proceeds to blurt out "check out that plastic hunk of junk that dude is wearing. Can you believe he doesn't like Beats? I guess when somebody can't afford quality haters will be haters" It was about then I waved over a security guard and had the idiots tossed out of the food court for acting like idiots.

 

That's the complete story, why the kid seemed hell bent to show off his Solo's to me and grand stand over them I have no clue whatsoever. The group of kids involved I would put at maybe 15 or 16 years of age. I'm 40 I don't bother concerning myself with what other people's kids are doing. If I choose to engage someone especially a stranger usually it's someone around my own age of at the very least someone old enough to shave. I especially don't concern myself with the latest fads the teen crowd is into Beats being one of them.


The pricing of the beats its probably the only thing beats owners use to argue when it comes to headphones. Had a guy tell me and a friend of mine that we only don't like the beats because we can't afford them. People like that sometimes just makes me want to buy a ED8 so they would stop talking. Also, even 12 year olds shave. The hormones in junk food makes us kids go through puberty pretty early nowadays atsmile.gif

 

post #1835 of 5508
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Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post




The pricing of the beats its probably the only thing beats owners use to argue when it comes to headphones. Had a guy tell me and a friend of mine that we only don't like the beats because we can't afford them. People like that sometimes just makes me want to buy a ED8 so they would stop talking. Also, even 12 year olds shave. The hormones in junk food makes us kids go through puberty pretty early nowadays atsmile.gif

 


My portables usually cost around the same as a pair of studios. One of the best ways to shut them down is tell them how much your amp costs if you've got a nice portable.

Had a kid almost **** himself when I compared my 400 dollar amp to the one in his Studios ear cups. biggrin.gif

Oh, and to any skeptics stories like that happen more often than you think.
post #1836 of 5508

Well that's an odd case, digital-freak. I've read some comments on youtube where beats-sters say things like, "Don't hate cos you poor kid",

"beats be shxting on your cans all day son", etc. On the other hand, I've got friends who own Beats. They certainly don't go around telling

others how bad ass the Beats are. So I think it's unfair to generalise all Beats owners as being rude.

 

Some people just like the Beats sound signature, even when you let them put on some HD800s they'd probably be all, hey these lack bass

and they sound too sharp and bright, give me back my Solos. Some buy Beats just to get in with the crowd. So if you let them try your Ultrasones

and they tell you they don't like it, please don't try to force your opinions down their throats and insist that your headphones are better, and not

as pricey as their headphones. Or worse, talk behind his back here on head-fi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #1837 of 5508
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Originally Posted by koolkat View Post

Well that's an odd case, digital-freak. I've read some comments on youtube where beats-sters say things like, "Don't hate cos you poor kid",

"beats be shxting on your cans all day son", etc. On the other hand, I've got friends who own Beats. They certainly don't go around telling

others how bad ass the Beats are. So I think it's unfair to generalise all Beats owners as being rude.

 

Some people just like the Beats sound signature, even when you let them put on some HD800s they'd probably be all, hey these lack bass

and they sound too sharp and bright, give me back my Solos. Some buy Beats just to get in with the crowd. So if you let them try your Ultrasones

and they tell you they don't like it, please don't try to force your opinions down their throats and insist that your headphones are better, and not

as pricey as their headphones. Or worse, talk behind his back here on head-fi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Personally I'd like to think that no one here on head-fi makes generalizations like that. We talk about the beats owners that do, and try to respect the ones that don't. Two of my classmates have Beats, I've talked to them about it, but never once bashed them, and they never tried to push the Beats on me either. They like the sound sig of the Beats, and that is fine. Perhaps you can make the argument that they simply haven't heard any better, but that is not for me or anyone else to assume. For all I know they could have gone to B&H and chosen them over the HD800s. I don't know, and it isn't my place to make such assumptions. 

 

From what I have seen, most users here are live and let live... But when Beats owners start trying to imply that the Beats are the best, the gloves come off... Usually the response is to try to explain (which gets blank stares usually) or those being "called out" allow the person to demo their set up.  

post #1838 of 5508
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Originally Posted by koolkat View Post

Well that's an odd case, digital-freak. I've read some comments on youtube where beats-sters say things like, "Don't hate cos you poor kid",

"beats be shxting on your cans all day son", etc. On the other hand, I've got friends who own Beats. They certainly don't go around telling

others how bad ass the Beats are. So I think it's unfair to generalise all Beats owners as being rude.

 

Some people just like the Beats sound signature, even when you let them put on some HD800s they'd probably be all, hey these lack bass

and they sound too sharp and bright, give me back my Solos. Some buy Beats just to get in with the crowd. So if you let them try your Ultrasones

and they tell you they don't like it, please don't try to force your opinions down their throats and insist that your headphones are better, and not

as pricey as their headphones. Or worse, talk behind his back here on head-fi.


No one ever suggested that every single Beats owner goes around bashing people for wearing other brands. It's more of the opposite: when someone bashes someone for wearing some other brand, it's usually a Beats owner. What I mean by this, you don't see people wearing Shures and going around telling kids "yo man your Beats suck!", neither do the Ultrasone fans bully on Beats owners. So since this company seems to have a lot more of the kind of people who need to brag about their purchase (and probably assure themselves that they did the right thing), we generalize that Beats owners are idiotic rich kids who call-out people for wearing other brands. It's not always true, but every prejudice has some truth to it. I don't force my convictions into anyone, but I do post about it. Why shouldn't I? How does this ruin someone's day?

 

Also, this thread seems to bother you a lot. That isn't healthy, maybe you shouldn't subscribe to it.

post #1839 of 5508

I don't sub to it. 

 

The thread doesn't affect me, not mentally.

 

Doesn't make me break down, cry, think about all the things I've done in the world, not that way.

 

 

> What I mean by this, you don't see people wearing Shures and going around telling kids "yo man your Beats suck!"

 

Not where you live, maybe.

 

>neither do the Ultrasone fans bully on Beats owners.

 

Not where you live, maybe.

 

>No one ever suggested that every single Beats owner goes around bashing people for wearing other brands. It's more of the opposite:

 

>we generalize that Beats owners are idiotic rich kids who call-out people for wearing other brands. 

 

What? ಠ_ಠ

 

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Originally Posted by LizardKing1 View Post




No one ever suggested that every single Beats owner goes around bashing people for wearing other brands. It's more of the opposite: when someone bashes someone for wearing some other brand, it's usually a Beats owner. What I mean by this, you don't see people wearing Shures and going around telling kids "yo man your Beats suck!", neither do the Ultrasone fans bully on Beats owners. So since this company seems to have a lot more of the kind of people who need to brag about their purchase (and probably assure themselves that they did the right thing), we generalize that Beats owners are idiotic rich kids who call-out people for wearing other brands. It's not always true, but every prejudice has some truth to it. I don't force my convictions into anyone, but I do post about it. Why shouldn't I? How does this ruin someone's day?

 

Also, this thread seems to bother you a lot. That isn't healthy, maybe you shouldn't subscribe to it.

 

I don't know.. hm. If you've only met a handful of Beats owners that are rude,

but you haven't met any rude Shure or Ultrasone owners, I think it's strange 

you would issue such a blanket statement.

 

According to your rationale, then I suppose I could stereotype all members

of a certain religion to be momma rapists, baby killers and suicide bombers.

 

No?

 

 

 

 

post #1840 of 5508

I had my first on hand experience with a beats owner the other day. Was sitting in the music library listening to a few records of my own beyersmile.png (I really need a turntable), and had my SRH840's sitting on the desk while I was using the libraries DT770 pros (odd selection for a library that stocks almost exclusively jazz and classical music), and a kid sits at the station next to me and asks me about my headphones, then shows me his beat stuido's. He was actually a really nice guy, he had just made a few wrong decisions audio wise, but he was genuinely curious about different headphones. Anyway, he asked me about my 840's and why I had them, and I said that I preffered the sound signature in them, and just said to screw with his head that the Beats didn't have the bass that I wanted. So I let him listen to mine running through my e7 with the max bass boost (which normally sits at 1 when listening to electronic and 0 for everything else), and he was actually blown away.

 

Anyway, I feel kinda bad for deceiving him that way, but it was funny at the time.  triportsad.gif

post #1841 of 5508

Don't worry, I do almost the same thing if anyone asks to take a listen. I immediately go into DSP manager, boost up the lower frequencies in EQ, and set bass boost to Extreme. Makes beats pale in comparison.

post #1842 of 5508

Tons and tonnes of too much give a **** about other peoples' money in this thread. Veil a sense of hand-wringing superiority in the guise of just trying to help, but, gosh, those darn beats kids, what can you do, why won't they just accept that I know best and they do not, the dumb consumer sheeps

 

If only this community could be their sheepdog... if... if only... d(;_;)b

 

The problem is this thread has warped back around into being a sort of communal pot for everyone to, ah, ... you know ... on that particular headphone brand. Because some members have apocryphally encountered rude owners (while others claim perfectly normal people who use a different set of headphones, shocking I know). It's an equal/opposite scenario. If you can't find validation in your own preferences and if your listening experience isn't good enough to withstand the harsh blow of some random person allegedly telling you that you can't be a man 'cause you don't smoke the same cigarettes as them, consider where your worthiness comes from harder. And quit trying to evangelize to everyone with a pair of the things, makes everyone who cares about headphones look as awkward, antisocial, holier-than-thou, sour grapes, knee-jerk, typifying, dismissive and anal as someone who would engage in some kind of real life one on one idea contest over headphones. Yeah, it's the topic of the forum, but there are more things in heaven and earth than this dead horse of a topic.

 

Effective marketing from major brands wins over audiophile brow-beating in convincing consumers. So it has been and so it shall be. It's the same here, you just don't see it that way because all the brands people argue over are in "the club."


Edited by NotJeffBuckley - 8/23/11 at 8:57pm
post #1843 of 5508

I saw a kid wearing his beats solo hd around his neck. he didn't even have the cable plugged in.

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Thread Starter 


 

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Originally Posted by NotJeffBuckley View Post

Tons and tonnes of too much give a **** about other peoples' money in this thread. Veil a sense of hand-wringing superiority in the guise of just trying to help, but, gosh, those darn beats kids, what can you do, why won't they just accept that I know best and they do not, the dumb consumer sheeps

 

If only this community could be their sheepdog... if... if only... d(;_;)b

 

The problem is this thread has warped back around into being a sort of communal pot for everyone to, ah, ... you know ... on that particular headphone brand. Because some members have apocryphally encountered rude owners (while others claim perfectly normal people who use a different set of headphones, shocking I know). It's an equal/opposite scenario. If you can't find validation in your own preferences and if your listening experience isn't good enough to withstand the harsh blow of some random person allegedly telling you that you can't be a man 'cause you don't smoke the same cigarettes as them, consider where your worthiness comes from harder. And quit trying to evangelize to everyone with a pair of the things, makes everyone who cares about headphones look as awkward, antisocial, holier-than-thou, sour grapes, knee-jerk, typifying, dismissive and anal as someone who would engage in some kind of real life one on one idea contest over headphones. Yeah, it's the topic of the forum, but there are more things in heaven and earth than this dead horse of a topic.

 

Effective marketing from major brands wins over audiophile brow-beating in convincing consumers. So it has been and so it shall be. It's the same here, you just don't see it that way because all the brands people argue over are in "the club."


If you don't like the thread, or the people in it for that matter, avoid it... Why post on something that you obviously don't care about? I should rephrase that: you care to trash this thread for what it is instead of just avoiding it. Do you really think that makes you better than the posters that stick to the OT?

 

I do agree with you that this thread is "a dead horse." The more this thread goes on, the more I regret I made it in the first place... 

 

post #1845 of 5508

I've seen a few Beats owners here and there while I've been out and about, and I have not interacted with them. And they haven't brought up conversation with me either, noticing my M50. I prefer to just keep things neutral if I know that any dispute could be possible from any side.

Whether or not I see their headphones as a "bad investment," I just don't see any need to debate it.  I think that's how everyone should be(and probably is, deep inside or on the outside) when it comes to this subject. Gah, I sound like a preacher. If every headphone wearer, mainstream or hobbyist loved each other, the world would be a better place. *Grows flowers and headphone trees for everyone*

 

But alas, everyone is different. And we all want to help(or hurt) each other. Some people want to help others get better headphones for the money. Others just want some attention. It's life. No need to get angry if anyone disagrees with your preferences. It would kind of suck if a headphone war broke out, hahaha.

 

Even though I prefer not to get in debates about headphones, I enjoy reading about the happenings in this thread. It's quite interesting if not a little bit educational about how people can be with the things they love.

I don't want this thread to get locked- I don't even think it should be, because we're all smart people here. Even though we may overreact to some things and get a little over-defensive.

 

To conclude, please just try to stay neutral, everyone. Unless you can go for something better, of course. So please, no more fights(especially Mac vs PC.) Fighting just adds "impedance" to our love of audio ;3.

Sorry if this post is a little long and kind of weird. I'm a little sleepy right now.


Edited by CaveManta - 8/23/11 at 10:50pm
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