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Originally Posted by Bananiq View Post
 

I got Brainwavz B2 today, but immediately I notice very aggressive treble, causing tiredness to my ears. I really feel the trebles peaked in some manner, don't know if my unit is defective or not, but I cannot handle such treble. I have also Hifiman RE-0 and I am very satisfied with them, so dont get me wrong I like detailed and extended trebles, but B2 is too harsh. Does it get better after burn-in or should I return them?


It does get better after burn-in. Also, if you are wearing them over the ear, as many do - don't.

post #1307 of 1355
Return them if they are not your thing. No amount of "burn in" will change the sound that much.
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Return them if they are not your thing. No amount of "burn in" will change the sound that much.


I have B2, and they aren't sibilant at all when I'm wearing them with the cable down.

They do have a very analytical sound, but the treble has calmed down after burn-in.

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just out of curiosity, do the r50 have the same sort of treble energy/sibilance? how about level of clarity/detail?
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just out of curiosity, do the r50 have the same sort of treble energy/sibilance? how about level of clarity/detail?

yes. and yes

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I prefer R50 over B2, sound as well as comfort.

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Not sure if I am getting deaf, but seems like B2 does really benefit from burn-in. The harsh sibilance and treble is there but not overwhelming like out of the box. It could really be that I am getting deaf to those high frequencies as I "am getting used to them".

Anyways bass are better than expected and amount of detail is big.

 

BenF: why you do not recommend wearing them over-the-ear?

 

s0lar: what exactly do you prefer on R50 over B2?

 

I am deciding whether to keep them or look for another IEMs with different sound signature like:

 

MOE SS01, RHA MA750, EPH-100
 or more expensive DN-1000.

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Originally Posted by Bananiq View Post

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BenF: why you do not recommend wearing them over-the-ear?

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Because when you do, treble increases and bass decreases.

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^That must be doing something with the fit right?

Comply T medium gives good fit and isolation and significantly removes sibilance. Also, I absolutely do not feel the B2 are lacking Bass. I get the amount I need and precision and speed is flawless. This was my biggest concern.

Looks like I am starting to love my B2 :)

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Originally Posted by Bananiq View Post
 

^That must be doing something with the fit right?

Comply T medium gives good fit and isolation and significantly removes sibilance. Also, I absolutely do not feel the B2 are lacking Bass. I get the amount I need and precision and speed is flawless. This was my biggest concern.

Looks like I am starting to love my B2 :)

 

Absolutely. They are designed to be cable down, but for some reason many people are wearing them over ear.

This breaks the seal needed for good bass.

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Originally Posted by BenF View Post
 

 

Absolutely. They are designed to be cable down, but for some reason many people are wearing them over ear.

This breaks the seal needed for good bass.

 That's the first time I see someone actually mentioning he prefers wearing the B2 cable down. The B2 sounds at its best with deep insertion, which attenuates the highs and keeps the sibilance at check while the cable down style doesn't allow it because of the length and angle of the nozzle. You can't break the seal and lose the bass as you get a lot better and deeper seal this way than when wearing it cable down.

When inserted properly it doesn't really look like this 

 

 But rather like this

 


Edited by kova4a - 1/9/14 at 8:27am
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^Jeez now that's deep. I am not able to get that deep with the Comply.

 

I am loving my B2, and for £59 B2 is absolute bargain. I used that special Christmas offer from Amazon.co.uk

 

Now I just wonder how the DN-1000 would sound. B2 would really improve with better impact on bass and bigger soundstage. - but it would cost at least 2 times the cost I payed for B2.

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Originally Posted by Bananiq View Post
 

^Jeez now that's deep. I am not able to get that deep with the Comply.

 

I am loving my B2, and for £59 B2 is absolute bargain. I used that special Christmas offer from Amazon.co.uk

 

Now I just wonder how the DN-1000 would sound. B2 would really improve with better impact on bass and bigger soundstage. - but it would cost at least 2 times the cost I payed for B2.

Yeah, you can't get this deep insertion with any of the supplied tips, especially the comply ones unless you buy small t-100 or better yet comply p. I use the small westone star tips

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Yeah, you can't get this deep insertion with any of the supplied tips, especially the comply ones unless you buy small t-100 or better yet comply p. I use the small westone star tips


This should tip (no pun intended) you that it wasn't the intended use for B2.

When Brainwavz were tuning the B2, they used the tips that ended up included in the package.

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Originally Posted by BenF View Post
 


This should tip (no pun intended) you that it wasn't the intended use for B2.

When Brainwavz were tuning the B2, they used the tips that ended up included in the package.

Nah, the extreme outward curving angle of the nozzle is something that will work for a cable down fir with probably less than 10% of the people who own a b2, which means for a cable down use a lot of people will have to go with a very shallow insertion and it's pretty much like using a shallow insertion with an ety iem - it's not at its best sound at all. At any rate, the angle is too steep for such a long nozzle and that's why the dba02 mk2 is a lot better in this regard. ANd brainwavz didn't really tune the B2 - it's an OEM design - not their own.

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