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Originally Posted by Somnambulist View Post

Nice. Didn't see the comparison to the UEIRM before either (must have missed you adding that in). Nothing to sway me away from the FutureSonics (yet), just getting annoyed I keep having to spend money on other things first lol, and I haven't replaced my S:Flo2 yet... (iBasso DX100, please deliver!).

I just added them last night! The UEIERM is really nice as is the 8.A, as is the EX1000...it's only in direct comparison that differences come out and I could see someone coming along and choosing any of them over the others. Still, the MG6Pro is quite a special custom stage monitor and more than stands up to the competition.

When you get your dx100, write a little review in the other forum for us, please.
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Hey bro, mind sharing tips to get the impressions to be good? I'm getting a custom too soon. If you mind, you can PM it to me. Much appreciated smily_headphones1.gif
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Well, I'll wait for the DX100 reviews (and price) but on paper it looks like it's the source I want (rather than going down the iPod + CLAS/HP-P1 route. I've heard a few players so it's something I'm fairly comfortable reviewing!

 

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I just added them last night! The UEIERM is really nice as is the 8.A, as is the EX1000...it's only in direct comparison that differences come out and I could see someone coming along and choosing any of them over the others. Still, the MG6Pro is quite a special custom stage monitor and more than stands up to the competition.
When you get your dx100, write a little review in the other forum for us, please.


 

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Hey bro, mind sharing tips to get the impressions to be good? I'm getting a custom too soon. If you mind, you can PM it to me. Much appreciated smily_headphones1.gif

I'd say the keys are: 1)Work with an audiologist who has a lot of experience working with musicians' monitors. An audiologist here on head-fi thought it was okay to make earmolds that would lead to a shoddy fit, and you want to avoid people like that.

 

2) Use a bite block--it's a rectangle of firm foam that keeps the mouth open. The advantage here is that you will end up with a seal that does not break when you open your mouth, smile, yawn, chew, talk, etc. Or, at least, it will be less likely to break.

 

3) Relax your jaw as much as possible during the procedure. Tight muscles lead to a poor seal as they close off the ear canal a bit at the very time when you want an ear mold that precisely fits just how wide the canal can be (to have a perfect seal).

 

4) Ask the audiologist to really fill the ear canal. Sometimes they don't because people complain if there's any discomfort. Honestly, any discomfort is mild and worth it.

 

5) Accept that some folks have unique ears and this can lead to problems no matter what. I followed the above steps and ended up needing a new set of earmolds. But, because I worked with a pro audiologist who was also recommended by Futuresonics, he gave me new earmolds for free and he ended up doing two new sets, one with the mouth open wider and one with the mouth closed, so the techs at FS could see exactly how my ear canals flexed. It worked, thank goodness. I can't imagine working with anyone else, it would have been a nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post

I'd say the keys are: 1)Work with an audiologist who has a lot of experience working with musicians' monitors. An audiologist here on head-fi thought it was okay to make earmolds that would lead to a shoddy fit, and you want to avoid people like that.

 

2) Use a bite block--it's a rectangle of firm foam that keeps the mouth open. The advantage here is that you will end up with a seal that does not break when you open your mouth, smile, yawn, chew, talk, etc. Or, at least, it will be less likely to break.

 

3) Relax your jaw as much as possible during the procedure. Tight muscles lead to a poor seal as they close off the ear canal a bit at the very time when you want an ear mold that precisely fits just how wide the canal can be (to have a perfect seal).

 

4) Ask the audiologist to really fill the ear canal. Sometimes they don't because people complain if there's any discomfort. Honestly, any discomfort is mild and worth it.

 

5) Accept that some folks have unique ears and this can lead to problems no matter what. I followed the above steps and ended up needing a new set of earmolds. But, because I worked with a pro audiologist who was also recommended by Futuresonics, he gave me new earmolds for free and he ended up doing two new sets, one with the mouth open wider and one with the mouth closed, so the techs at FS could see exactly how my ear canals flexed. It worked, thank goodness. I can't imagine working with anyone else, it would have been a nightmare.


Awesome, thank you so much bro. I'm doing it in Malaysia, not sure about the audiologists here. Well, fingers-crossed! Will do everything that you said. Hopefully I'll get a good fit :)

 

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I have to say that the responses I've had from David over at Futuresonics, coupled with the support from the guys over at Hand Held Audio (uk), plus this review and thread, almost made me order them immediately.

 

I've just had my impressions done at Harley Street Hearing, who do a great deal of the UK musicians/bands (coldplay, plan b amongst many others). Their customer service is outstanding and they've kindly offered to check the fit of whichever IEMs I eventually decide on. They are experienced with all the iem brands and the requirements of each, which can differ. So, highly recommended!

 

Next stage of the quest is to audition the universal fit of the iems I'm currently deliberating over, as ultimately it's an individual choice. I'm off to Hand Held Audio later this week.

 

Thanks for such a great review and insight into your journey with these and many others, it certainly helps.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Silvercable - 1/1/12 at 8:12am
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Yeah I was going to get mine done at Harley Street as well given the work they do. I know HHA make the process easier, but I'm not sure if it's worth the added £140ish extra (they're $900 from the FS website - about £580 and £720 from HHA) they charge, as this doesn't cover impressions AFAIK. Look forward to your impressions!

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Don't forget import duties and VAT
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Thanks for the replies/info.

 

Re: cost of IEMs, import duty and VAT.

 

Im discussing this with HHA and Futuresonics. At the end of the day it comes down to the value inscribed on the excise document that needs to accompany any export. With this info, I can accurately place a value on all the elements: shipping, insurance, mark-up, duty and vat etc, before making a decision. I'm being open and very frank with everyone and it's a healthy discussion for all involved with the ideal that everyone will benefit. Im also pursuing this with a couple of other manufacturers (portable amps/dacs, cables etc). 

 

As an aside, if you own an iPhone, there is an app called Duty Calc, which helpfully works all this out for you! I would have put the link in this reply, but I'm not sure on the rules (I'm new in these parts, but hoping to become a local :). Interestingly you can also embed the code into eBay and a site...It would be great if a few more companies would go that tiny bit further to encourage overseas trade. (I recognise there are also many sites that do this).

 

 

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Thanks for the replies/info.

 

Re: cost of IEMs, import duty and VAT.

 

Im discussing this with HHA and Futuresonics. At the end of the day it comes down to the value inscribed on the excise document that needs to accompany any export. With this info, I can accurately place a value on all the elements: shipping, insurance, mark-up, duty and vat etc, before making a decision. I'm being open and very frank with everyone and it's a healthy discussion for all involved with the ideal that everyone will benefit. Im also pursuing this with a couple of other manufacturers (portable amps/dacs, cables etc).



Please let me know the outcome of your discussions (by PM if need be) - I'm genuinely interested to hear what transpires.

 

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I've now read all 35 pages of this thread, and, in addition to my earlier questions, I'm still wondering:

 

 

 

 

1) If I upgrade after 2 yrs or more, the anatomical measurements of my ear may well have altered sufficiently to necessitate the taking of new impressions - therefore, the moulds kept at FS' facility, will need to be discarded and the entire process begun again from scratch - in this instance, how much more than the standard $200 will the upgrade cost? (I'm surprised no-one's considered this complication)

 

 

2) ...and, LFV alterations notwithstanding, I'm going to ask again: is there a frequency plot of the MG6Pro available anywhere? I'm well aware of the limitations of freq. plots vs. subjective listening experiences, but freq. plots are still very relevant in their own right.

 

 

Cheers.

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Just read some interesting comments on Futuresonics' Facebook page:

 

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=274885112528896&set=o.163530551434&type=3&theater

 

"Every set of of 1,2,3,4 driver armatures I've ever heard has one sweet spot to get the efficiency to match between the drivers so they sound good"

 

I think that's a really interesting point.

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Also on Facebook:

 

Described by the owner as "Smoke" color with sparkle "Flakes"

MG6Pro smoke sparkle flkes.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150481012081435&set=a.294814291434.145873.163530551434&type=1&theater

post #524 of 1119
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I've now read all 35 pages of this thread, and, in addition to my earlier questions, I'm still wondering:

 

 

 

 

1) If I upgrade after 2 yrs or more, the anatomical measurements of my ear may well have altered sufficiently to necessitate the taking of new impressions - therefore, the moulds kept at FS' facility, will need to be discarded and the entire process begun again from scratch - in this instance, how much more than the standard $200 will the upgrade cost? (I'm surprised no-one's considered this complication)

 

 

2) ...and, LFV alterations notwithstanding, I'm going to ask again: is there a frequency plot of the MG6Pro available anywhere? I'm well aware of the limitations of freq. plots vs. subjective listening experiences, but freq. plots are still very relevant in their own right.

 

 

Cheers.

1) I think this is certainly true if one gains or loses a lot of weight, or was still growing when the first set was done. You could ask David about it, he's a very nice guy and will answer any concerns.

 

2) FS doesn't release their in-house freq. chart. Neither does Hier Audio and others, btw.

 

post #525 of 1119

I do love that black smoke finish. I wonder if they could do that with coloured tips for each ear (say, blue and purple). Worth asking them...

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