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post #16 of 33

There was some confusion created by an early translation of the spec from Korean, but the Calyx 24/192 uses a single ESS9018 chip, like the Audiolab, M2Tech and Wyred 4 Sound DACs. The design of that chip is inherently 'eight-channel'.

 

As long as Calyx doesn't take offense with us as a UK reseller, I'll post some internal pix shortly . . .

 

What makes it sound so different to the other Sabre-chip DACs is how they have implemented the power supply. It also seems strongly optimised for the USB: the USB/ASIO drivers take the thing to a different level. Please note that although the Calyx sounds considerably better on the KingRex 5V PSU II, it does invalidate the warranty.


Edited by hubsand - 3/3/11 at 3:54am
post #17 of 33

  Do Calyx know about this translation?  If so are they ever planning to get around to sending their English language distribution the correct information?  I don't think I like how lax they seem to be about this.

 

Edit:  Their own site on the English language version still says 8dacs/channel used. 


Edited by LostWeekend - 3/3/11 at 3:48pm
post #18 of 33

Hello:

 

I have this DAC on order, and was wondering about the PSU metioned above, the KingRex 5V PSU II, where do you buy this PSU (I am in Canada) and does it just plug into the Calyx? I seem to have read the plug needs to be longer?

How much better is the sound with the PSU verses its own wall wart or the USB power?

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 

Rumble

post #19 of 33

I think it should be OK to post, and I for one would be interested in reading that thread. Please post if you don't mind!

post #20 of 33

pix of the dac is available from the german review.

post #21 of 33

Link?

post #22 of 33
post #23 of 33

Thank you.

 

Rumble

 

post #24 of 33

Seven of us (two trade, one ex-trade, four audiophiles) just concluded a mammoth audition on neutral territory of Emotiva, Musical Fidelity, Wyred 4 Sound, Rega, Audiolab, Calyx, Young, Heed and Antelope DACs, along with the Item and NVA music computers. Nine hours, one track, one food break; audio-geeks only need apply.

 

We strove to make it as fair as possible - trying each with two (some with three) transports, and via several digital inputs, and via multiple filters and configuration options where available, in order to hear each at its best.

 

Although our individual opinions varied slightly, there was little dissent from a broad consensus that the Calyx DAC was  two clear notches above the Young DAC, and that the W4S DAC deserved its price premium over the Young. In fact, with one or two exceptions, it was generally felt that there were simply no 'giant killers' - that the more you paid, the better the sound quality.

 

Having said that, the Rega, Young and Calyx were all felt to offer outstanding performance for the price, and gave some of the best sounds of the day, In particular, I thought the Young was very transparent and neutral: probably the best resolving DAC £800 or so can buy right now.

 

However, unmistakably, it's not as good as the best DACs at £900 and above. Beware, though, that we sell W4S and Calyx, but not Young or Heed, so you're welcome to take that with a pinch of salt! Better to read their comments than mine (at PinkFish).

 

Other than the Zodiac, which was another level of price and performance, none of the DACs were tested with aftermarket power supplies, which doubtless would have improved the Young further. The Calyx was auditioned USB-powered only by a 5-year old standard Acer laptop, and the Stealth Mini computer transport.


Edited by hubsand - 3/14/11 at 3:40am
post #25 of 33
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Originally Posted by hubsand View Post

What's the global price for the Calyx, incidentally? I'm seeing $1500-1900 . . .



http://english.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=199292058&pos_shop_cd=EN&pos_class_cd=90000001&pos_class_kind=T&keyword_order=calyx+dac

post #26 of 33
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In fact, with one or two exceptions, it was generally felt that there were simply no 'giant killers' - that the more you paid, the better the sound quality.

Based upon the review posted in this thread, the reviewer thought the Calyx was on par with the Weiss 202. This is using USB power. I would think it would improve with PSU or battery power. There's also a positive feedback review on the Rega, where the reviewer found it almost as good as his DCS Debussy. He was going through a USB converter on the Rega.

 

I'm personally going to pick up either the Rega or Calyx, and if the reviews are true, then the gap has closed.


Edited by vert - 3/15/11 at 10:37pm
post #27 of 33
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Based upon the review posted in this thread, the reviewer thought the Calyx was on par with the Weiss 202. This is using USB power. I would think it would improve with PSU or battery power. There's also a positive feedback review on the Rega, where the reviewer found it almost as good as his DCS Debussy. He was going through a USB converter on the Rega.

 

I'm personally going to pick up either the Rega or Calyx, and if the reviews are true, then the gap has closed.



The 'giant' we wheeled in for slaughter was the Antelope Zodiac Plus (although in the UK, the Calyx is heading towards the same price) which makes it own claim to outperform more expensive DACs. This bunch was pretty much state of the art for the money, and new. So quite likely they will sound better than older, more expensive DACs like the 202, or old-school favourites like the Benchmark and Lavry. But you still seem to get what you pay for if you shop around for the best DAC at a higher price point.

 

In the UK, the Rega looks like a bargain: equivalent to $600 after tax adjustment and cuurency conversion: I loved it at that price. Then again, over the pond, you can snag an Emotiva for $350, which was ultimately as competent, although quite different.

 

Most reports we're getting suggest that the Calyx is improved by a dedicated 5V linear or battery, but in the test we were powering it from battery via a specialised Stealth Mini PC which is designed to deliver a clean 5V rail.


Edited by hubsand - 3/16/11 at 12:54am
post #28 of 33
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In the UK, the Rega looks like a bargain: equivalent to $600 after tax adjustment and cuurency conversion: I loved it at that price.

 

Yeah, the pricing is wacky. The Rega is a steal at $600.

 

The M2Tech Young is priced $1500 in Australia and UK, and the US dealer tried to sell it at $2k. I think the price has dropped to $1800 now.

 

I contacted the makers of the Calyx DAC, and it seems like there's no US distributor. However, we still get to pay the same mark up  as everyone else. frown.gif

post #29 of 33

I would hazard a guess that battery power would put the Calyx to another level?

 

post #30 of 33

so who's selling either of these DACs?


 


Edited by tme110 - 5/3/11 at 7:51pm
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