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post #2176 of 3332

Anyone know how to bump the volume just a little on A+ past its maxed out volume button.....I looked through the Audio Units list for something to dial up just a little OVERALL vs parametric EQ.

I'm running a pair of D2K off my DAC and it is just that TINY bit below where I need it volume-wise (about 80% there) without putting a small Altoid amp that is a bit bright in the mix and messing up the current sound I have....


Edited by Lohb - 6/10/14 at 8:18am
post #2177 of 3332
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Originally Posted by snowshoe View Post
 

 

I didn't :), but since you mention it, I don't agree that it looks like something from 10.4. Non-native mac-like is JRiver! (I honestly have no idea what the attraction is to JRiver). However, I'm with you on the library manager front. Library manager means that the app gets bigger and heavier - something I'm not particularly keen on.  What I'd like is a mini player that stays on top of other windows. Also, whatever you think of the interface, surely it's better that what there is now?! I really wish we could at least resize that great atrocity of an amp!

 

@Lohb: If you are using A+, you shouldn't need to go into the Midi settings unless you are checking something (i.e. you don't need to manually change bitrates). Once you've selected the device in the A+ settings, what bitrates does it show? If it's not showing the full range of bitrates, check the Midi settings. Does it show the full range? If not, try unplugging then plugging back in the USB cable if the DAC is not independently powered (i.e. by a battery or electric source). If the DAC is powered, turn it off and turn it back on again while it is still plugged into the computer.


Hi, I don't think it is the bit rates (?) just my DAC is 200mWatts so it is just that BIT underpowered to get the cans kicking along alone....I know you should not stress the DAC out with cans but I've not yet installed balanced cables on my D2k so just trying to run them of SE for the moment.If i could increase gain overall that should be enough unless that takes everything into distortion... What I'm liking from A+ and the DAC is it is not adding treble bite to the sound.

post #2178 of 3332

Okay, I might be going craze. I just noticed this out of nowhere on my two Apple devices.

 

1) iMac Late 2009 - Lion - spinning hard drive 1 TB

 

2) Macbook Pro Retina Mid 2012 - solid state 500 GB

 

Both running the same Audirvana Plus 1.5.10 via the same setup, cables, phones etc. I had music on both their internal memory and avoided my external drives for both.

 

I swear music sounds cleaner through my Macbook pro. The iMac sounded almost blurred and noisy. I'm not sure if it's because it's Lion vs. Mountain Lion, or music stored on a spinning hard drive vs solid state, or maybe something else?

 

Anyone else experience this or have an explanation for it (besides me going crazy)?

post #2179 of 3332

Hard drives don't make any difference in the sound restitution, the only difference can be the access time.

If the configuration of Audirvana Plus is the same on both of your computers, and if it has an exclusive and direct access to your external sound card (btw, i guess you're using the same sound card for your comparison), OS doesn't have any effect on SQ.

The last factor is the electrical / static noise generated by the computer which could be more important, and noticeable on you iMac since it's plugged on your electrical circuit...

post #2180 of 3332

Yeah I'm using a Dangerous Source DAC with both machines. iMac is obviously plugged into the wall, but I also tried using the macbook pro's battery alone and via it connected to wall power supply. There was no difference in sound in the macbook pro's sound when running off of battery or wall power supply.

post #2181 of 3332

Audirvana+ work OK with Bluetooth speakers ?

post #2182 of 3332
I'm not sure if you guys know about it, but Light Harmonic has negotiated with the folks who made BitPerfect and is offering the stock BitPerfect plus a DSD plugin as a package for $20 until their Geek Wave Indiegogo campaign ends in 6 days (it's the $20 GeekPerfect perk).

Campaign: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geek-wave-it-s-not-a-next-gen-ipod-it-s-a-no-compromise-portable-music-player

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GeekPerfect Playback Software for Mac

We're pleased to announce a new agreement that was recently inked with our pals at BitPerfect. As you might know, BitPerfect makes the best playback Macintosh software for high-resolution music in the world. It's awesome. They make two software suites: BitPerfect ($10), which is a playback engine for Mac, and DSDMaster ($30), which makes "hybrid" PCM/DSD files so you can play DSD music in iTunes.

We're combining these two suites of software and are calling it GeekPerfect! And we're making it available to you here for only $20!

When you use GeekPerfect, iTunes is still your main interface to your music collection. But when you push play, GeekPerfect steps in a takes over, squeezing the best possible audio quality from your Macintosh computer. It also makes it possible to play DSD files with iTunes!

Edited by miceblue - 7/6/14 at 11:40pm
post #2183 of 3332

Thanks, miceblue. I didn't know about this and will swoop to have a closer look.

post #2184 of 3332

 

I never compared between a HD and SSHD, but changing HD does change sound for me. 

 

*disclaimer; I understand this is not supposed to happen from 'digital is digital' rule - like all USB cables are made same theory :)

 

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

Okay, I might be going craze. I just noticed this out of nowhere on my two Apple devices.

 

1) iMac Late 2009 - Lion - spinning hard drive 1 TB

 

2) Macbook Pro Retina Mid 2012 - solid state 500 GB

 

Both running the same Audirvana Plus 1.5.10 via the same setup, cables, phones etc. I had music on both their internal memory and avoided my external drives for both.

 

I swear music sounds cleaner through my Macbook pro. The iMac sounded almost blurred and noisy. I'm not sure if it's because it's Lion vs. Mountain Lion, or music stored on a spinning hard drive vs solid state, or maybe something else?

 

Anyone else experience this or have an explanation for it (besides me going crazy)?

post #2185 of 3332
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Originally Posted by tagosaku View Post
 

 

I never compared between a HD and SSHD, but changing HD does change sound for me. 

 

*disclaimer; I understand this is not supposed to happen from 'digital is digital' rule - like all USB cables are made same theory :)

 

Yeah like I've experimented with interconnect analog and headphone cables and noticed some improved transparency on high end systems, but I never really cared too much as the difference seemed trivial and it might have been my head playing tricks. But this time I am consistently noticing it. For an hour session, I am getting almost fatigued by the sound on the iMac.

 

This isn't something I noticed because I went looking for it specifically, like as I were to have bought a high end USB cable vs. stock USB cables and then went looking for sound difference. I didn't consider this possibility, this just came naturally to me and I only noticed it because I had to keep stopping the music on the iMac because of how irritating it was.

post #2186 of 3332

to Zoom

Yep, same here. I noticed it when the external HD for my speaker system failed - the new one sounded different. And the latest I bought turned into a back up as I liked it less than the current one.

Though I don't think I want to go into HD rolling any time soon :P

post #2187 of 3332
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Originally Posted by tagosaku View Post
 

to Zoom

Yep, same here. I noticed it when the external HD for my speaker system failed - the new one sounded different. And the latest I bought turned into a back up as I liked it less than the current one.

Though I don't think I want to go into HD rolling any time soon :P

HAHAHA

 

LOL the reason I also brought this up is because I am considering getting a iPod Classic and connecting it to a dock that has a digital out to feed into my DAC. The iPod Classic is indeed a spinning hard drive whereas the iPad or some other dedicated music servers use solid state drives or very low noise HD. Apparently a few people like the sound through the iPad more than iPod when connected to same dock and DAC.

 

To further compound this, not all of these docks have equal performance with consideration to noise, jitter and other transport issues. Apparently, the Wadia ones are good, but still fall short of say a PC based system. I was personally looking at a Pure I-20 as it's only $100 as a digital dock out system for iPod Classic, but my recent observations with the iMac vs. Macbook Pro got me thinking if I should hold on and invest in a proper music server.

post #2188 of 3332

My MP3 sounds cleaner on Macbook Pro than the FLACs on iMac. I went looking for answer on the Audirvana 1.5.12 thread and it seems others have also noticed something similar. One user had the same experience between his Macbook Pro vs. Mac Mini. He preferred the macbook pro more with a more sense of clarity and dynamics.

 

This is some major BS. I can't explain this, but it's definitely there.

post #2189 of 3332
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

HAHAHA

 

LOL the reason I also brought this up is because I am considering getting a iPod Classic and connecting it to a dock that has a digital out to feed into my DAC. The iPod Classic is indeed a spinning hard drive whereas the iPad or some other dedicated music servers use solid state drives or very low noise HD. Apparently a few people like the sound through the iPad more than iPod when connected to same dock and DAC.

 

To further compound this, not all of these docks have equal performance with consideration to noise, jitter and other transport issues. Apparently, the Wadia ones are good, but still fall short of say a PC based system. I was personally looking at a Pure I-20 as it's only $100 as a digital dock out system for iPod Classic, but my recent observations with the iMac vs. Macbook Pro got me thinking if I should hold on and invest in a proper music server.

I use a Pure I-20, and connect via coax.  It works well for me.  Oh, source is iphone 5S 64gb.

post #2190 of 3332
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post
 

I use a Pure I-20, and connect via coax.  It works well for me.  Oh, source is iphone 5S 64gb.

 

Thanks for the feedback. The thing is that previously when I used to use my iMac, I never noticed the problem as that was my reference. It was only when I switched over to Macbook pro and used it for months. Then when I went back, it was only then I had two points to compare and the iMac sounded terrible. I'm hoping I don't run into the same problem when I switch over to iPods with docks.

 

I might try to audition if possible. I was looking at the new iPods of 64 GB max, but that's still too little. I'm only selecting the top albums out of my 2TB+ library, so figured the 160 GB would be enough, but the 64 GB might me pushing it too much. The 128 GB on Ipads are nice but they are priced ridiculously.

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