[NEWS / DISCUSSION / IMPRESSION] Phonak Audéo PFE232 - Page 51

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed 

Ok I've been doing a lot of listening...and there is something up - for sure.

 

The left earphone is just simply louder.

I tried different filters, tips, source, no amp/with amp

And the deal breaker was this:

Putting my MG7's or CKS77's back on, and then realising there is nothing wrong with my ear (as stupid as that might sound, but maybe it was to do with the insertion or something with my right ear canal)

 

Long story short, i think a driver is bust on the right side.

I've already been offered a replacement, and I waited to make sure it wasn't me.

I can pretty much confirm it isn't me lol.

 

It's not noticeable at first...but then you compare...and you can tell, especially if you listen closely.

 

It's almost like this:
Feels like the bass is actually "working" on the left, but on the left side, and not in the middle, as it should.

I know stereo recordings etc, but it isn't the case, as all my other earphones don't have that "problem"

 

I think busted filter 

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Originally Posted by jrkong 

I think busted filter 

He said he tested that :p  That would be where I would have gone first as well...  IDK how well this would work, but swap ears (but wear them down).  If you still get the same effect, it may be able to confirm some stuff :p

Haven't listened to PFE232 for awhile now. Dang these are just as marvelous as I remember.

I wish there's something in between black and grey filter. 

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Originally Posted by Bokyung 

Haven't listened to PFE232 for awhile now. Dang these are just as marvelous as I remember.

 

I wish there's something in between black and grey filter. 

LOL, I want something that is slightly above the grey filter that will bring out the midrange 2 dB :p

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Originally Posted by tinyman392 

 

LOL, I want something that is slightly above the grey filter that will bring out the midrange 2 dB :p

Haha, having all these varient filters would be cool and handy.

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Originally Posted by Bokyung 

 

Haha, having all these varient filters would be cool and handy.

LOL, it would...  Having too many might prove problematic though :p 

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Originally Posted by tinyman392 

 

LOL, it would...  Having too many might prove problematic though :p 

True, imagine having like 10 different filters. I bet quite a few of them would sound really similar to the point most couldn't tell the difference hahaha.

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Originally Posted by Bokyung 

 

True, imagine having like 10 different filters. I bet quite a few of them would sound really similar to the point most couldn't tell the difference hahaha.

Think about how much longer reviews would become :p  Have to explain each filter now :p  But yes, it wouldn't only be a hassle, but it would become very similar sounding.  What did the red filter do again?  Oh yeah, bass boost...  No that was green :p

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Originally Posted by tinyman392 

 

Think about how much longer reviews would become :p  Have to explain each filter now :p  But yes, it wouldn't only be a hassle, but it would become very similar sounding.  What did the red filter do again?  Oh yeah, bass boost...  No that was green :p

Haha, that review would be something to read.

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Originally Posted by Bokyung 

 

Haha, that review would be something to read.

It would...  It'd probably end up being 10 pages long too :p  Would kill a good hour though :)

Received my 232's this afternoon from Earphonesolutions.   Ordered Sunday and arrived today here in Toronto. Fast shipping and great customer service so kudos to them!

Well, after few hours of listening, I have to say that they've lived well up to my expectations   The overall balance is very "fun" and emotionally involving, compared to the easy, light and sometimes analytical nature of the 121's.  I was actually caught off guard by the bass... they have WAY more bass than what I expected! Not any problems on my end with that, as I do enjoy my share of fun bass. Funny enough, they seem to have as much bass as the D7000's that I sold in order to fund it. Very well extending and lively bass. Not what I would call a neutral bass though. I was originally expecting something bit lower in bass, perhaps somewhere between this and the amount the 121's has, but I can easily accept this for what it is.

Mids are definitely not as clear and forward as the 121's, which was what I was expecting anyway. The mids are fine, and doesn't sit back THAT much to bothersome levels or anything, but I do have to say that I prefer the 121's style of mids.

Highs are quite lively but I don't find them to be overly strident or anything either. Very well done.

Overall, happy with the purchase. Perhaps slightly different from what I was expecting, but it is a very fun, exciting and easy to listen to IEM's. Will give me more listen to see if they're for me in the long run.

Few other comments:

- Build quality is good deal better than the 121's! The cables are great, love the slick right angle plug, and love the new earguides that keeps the cables in much better than the previous version.

- I would have provided a solid case with it however... gonna have to keep using my UE aluminum case as the Phonak softcase just won't cut it (looks the same as the ones that came with 121's).

- I find them to have a good deal of soundstage improvement over the 121's.

- I'm probably not going to play around with the filters at all as I feel that the bass amount is already more than enough and wouldn't want mids to sit back any more than it is. Couldn't imagine myself liking the black filters... much less the greens (thoughts of using the greens scare me, actually... if there's already this much bass with the grey then the greens...)

- Comfort level wise, they're more or less identical to the 121's which is great! I have EXTREMELY sensitive ear canals that can't put with with any sort of foamies or hard silicone tips (such as the Shure ones)... and Phonak silicone tips are probably the softest around. Can easily listen with it for few hours without any pain at all. Results in some itching sometimes after a while but nothing too horrible.

- I find the sound of these to be quite sensitive to the positioning amount of seal that you get, much moreso than the 121's...

Hmm well I don't really agree that these are as bassy as the D7K's - I don't own the d7k's but own d2k's which has now been modded to a d5k.

They are no where near as "bassy" as my d2k's....let alone my "d5ks" which are even bassier.

Glad you are enjoying them.

I found the green filters sound closer to the d2k/d5ks if anything.

Right i think my "driver problem" was really related to the filters but for some reason, when i removed them, and changed them i still experienced the problem.

It's not only till i removed the cable, exchanged it with the mic one, then re-exchanged it with the non-mic one that I felt the problem was no longer there.

Quite odd.

Still trying to test and compare.

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed 

Right i think my "driver problem" was really related to the filters but for some reason, when i removed them, and changed them i still experienced the problem.

It's not only till i removed the cable, exchanged it with the mic one, then re-exchanged it with the non-mic one that I felt the problem was no longer there.

 

Quite odd.

Still trying to test and compare.

IDK if this is it, but whenever I have this problem, it's normally due to the fact that the headphone jack isn't pushed in all the way.  I remember I had this with the T15s last week.  I thought to myself when I heard the left driver drop out...  It took me 10 minutes to figure out that the headphone jack needed to be pushed in 1mm more :p 

If it still is giving you problems, contact Phonak, you might have some loose wires :p

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Originally Posted by tinyman392 

 

IDK if this is it, but whenever I have this problem, it's normally due to the fact that the headphone jack isn't pushed in all the way.  I remember I had this with the T15s last week.  I thought to myself when I heard the left driver drop out...  It took me 10 minutes to figure out that the headphone jack needed to be pushed in 1mm more :p 

 

If it still is giving you problems, contact Phonak, you might have some loose wires :p

thing is, it wasn't fit, as any more I pushed, it felt like the vacuum effect.