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I think it's time to debunk the EX1000s! Time for ALL those EX1000 owners to do a massive U-turn, wake up and start a mass exodus from the EX1000 to a lot less expensive (and fancy) alternatives.

post #1802 of 3000

I heavily prefer the presentation of the EX1000, over any other in-ear I've owned to date. The 'out of head' feel alone is exceptional, although the staging of the 262 doesn't fall short of excellent in and of itself. The EX1000's are quite obviously brighter than the warmer 262's, but in a preferred sense in my case. I find imaging to be superior on the EX1000 as well, while the 262, again, is no slouch, but not quite up there with the EX.. I must admit, the 262 has a more musical sense to it, and emerges you much like the SM3 once did these ears; while the EX1000, to these ears, is more technically proficient in nearly every regard, albeit by how much, that depends entirely on the listener. In other words, wherever I find the 262 sounds good, the EX1000 sounds great; YMMV of course.

 

At a third of the cost however, it's almost impossible to pull away from the 262's. I find I prefer both the EX1000's treble and bass, while the EX also pairs slightly better with the Zo than does the 262. Without the Zo, the EX1000's lows have the clear advantage IMO, with overall better body/extention, while with the Zo, the 2 are equally enjoyable. The fit and comfort is similar on both, albeit if I'm to be completely honest, I've always preferred straight cable versus over the ear. Nonetheless, I've chosen to make more than one sacrifice with the EX1000, since I find that its signature/presentation leaves nothing more to be desired. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

I think it's time to debunk the EX1000s! Time for ALL those EX1000 owners to do a massive U-turn, wake up and start a mass exodus from the EX1000 to a lot less expensive (and fancy) alternatives.

 

tongue.gif In a sense, I've already started. It may be a slower than usual process, but I've got the GR07 on the way, and if that doesn't appeal to these ears to an extent, I'll pay the RE272's a visit.

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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post
 

 

I think it's time to debunk the EX1000s! Time for ALL those EX1000 owners to do a massive U-turn, wake up and start a mass exodus from the EX1000 to a lot less expensive (and fancy) alternatives.



 

Anyone got W4's? Let's swap for a while.

post #1805 of 3000

Well, I think Sony is finally seeing the writing on the wall and is bring the prices down (finally) in the USA on the EX1000. Of course, you could find it here and there at stores you've never heard of for about $350 (sometimes less), but now name brand e-stores and sites like Amazon.com are carrying it for $300 to $325. Just a few weeks ago I was told by Amazon and a couple other recognized e-stores that Sony wouldn't allow them to drop the price on the EX1000. Now, in some cases, the EX1000 is cheaper than the MDR 7550.  If the prices stay in the low $300 range, I will eventually get one soon.

would I sell the EX600 if I got the EX1000? Hmmm? I don't know. I have a loaner EX1000, and a couple of nights ago I found myself enjoy the sound of the EX600 if not more at least just as much as I was enjoying the EX1000. As similar as they certainly are they both offer some differences. I particular like my Monster white  foam hybrids on the EX600, whereas the Sony hybrid seem to work best for me on the EX1000. I wouldn't, however, give up the GR07 for either Sony. I would like to make two or all three coexist in some way.

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Looking forward to that comparison with the W4! (You know, the one I'm sure is simmering in your noggin as we speak!)

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Well, I think Sony is finally seeing the writing on the wall and is bring the prices down (finally) in the USA on the EX1000. Of course, you could find it here and there at stores you've never heard of for about $350 (sometimes less), but now name brand e-stores and sites like Amazon.com are carrying it for $300 to $325. Just a few weeks ago I was told by Amazon and a couple other recognized e-stores that Sony wouldn't allow them to drop the price on the EX1000. Now, in some cases, the EX1000 is cheaper than the MDR 7550.  If the prices stay in the low $300 range, I will eventually get one soon.

would I sell the EX600 if I got the EX1000? Hmmm? I don't know. I have a loaner EX1000, and a couple of nights ago I found myself enjoy the sound of the EX600 if not more at least just as much as I was enjoying the EX1000. As similar as they certainly are they both offer some differences. I particular like my Monster white  foam hybrids on the EX600, whereas the Sony hybrid seem to work best for me on the EX1000. I wouldn't, however, give up the GR07 for either Sony. I would like to make two or all three coexist in some way.



 

post #1807 of 3000

To provide a better example of why I prefer the EX over the 262, in the following track (while just one example), the EX1000 sounds incredibly natural, whereas the 262's mids sound much too accentuated, which of course to some ears may very well be the preferred choice. I must admit however, the 262's enveloping mid-centric sound makes it seem as though I'm standing over, almost looking down at the piano, and can feel the reverb off of every note as it's being struck (in reference to the piano segment beginning at 5 minutes), whereas with the EX1000, while not as engaging as the 262, it's as though I'm giving the player his/her space, and admiring from a close distance, better able to perceive the distance between each note as the keys are struck. Hence preference comes to play here, and mine tends to fall on the latter, where my attention is drawn not mostly towards the mids, but to all frequencies alike. smile.gif


Edited by i2ehan - 8/11/11 at 3:04pm
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Nearly forgot to mention; as quick as the 262 is growing on me, I could honestly see the 272 as a heavy heavy contender against the EX1000. Hats off to Head-Direct for a truly competent in-ear, at a very reasonable value might I add. beerchug.gif

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Originally Posted by i2ehan View Post

To provide a better example of why I prefer the EX over the 262, in the following track (while just one example), the EX1000 sounds incredibly natural, whereas the 262's mids sound much too accentuated, which of course to some ears may very well be the preferred choice. I must admit however, the 262's enveloping mid-centric sound makes it seem as though I'm standing over, almost looking down at the piano, and can feel the reverb off of every note as it's being struck (in reference to the piano segment beginning at 5 minutes), whereas with the EX1000, while not as engaging as the 262, it's as though I'm giving the player his/her space, and admiring from a close distance, better able to perceive the distance between each note as the keys are struck. Hence preference comes to play here, and mine tends to fall on the latter, where my attention is drawn not mostly towards the mids, but to all frequencies alike. smile.gif

 

Well, I just listened to the beginning of that track now with RE272 out of my laptop's onboard soundcard. Good music! I will get to that 5 minute piano segment a bit later, but for now I can say that the first couple of minutes sound quite balanced to me with RE272. I don't feel like the piano is too emphasized, nor is the singer's voice. The bass sounds incredibly tight with the RE272. Really tight, defined, perfectly controlled, and seems to go pretty low here. The highs have good presence. The overall sound strikes me as extremely clean/crystal clear, although I feel it could use a bit more texture. Soundstage is fine - no 3 blobs in the head feeling - with good depth. Dynamics are effortless. Overall, not jaw dropping or anything, but just very nice, clear sound with good sense of atmosphere.

 

EDIT: Ok, I just listened to the track again, this time with FX700 and then switched to RE272 again. The JVCs manage a more airy soundstage than the RE272 I think. That is you literally get a sense that the sound interacts with the outside world around you. With RE272, it's different. The sound is more closed, but it's like that of a really hi-fi closed back can - it is more closed, but also thicker, more substantial sounding than what the JVCs produce. JVCs sound a tad thin by comparison, almost anemic in the mids, although bass and highs are fine. The bass is clearly higher quality on the RE272 though. FX700s sound a tad boomy down there by comparison and I think the quantity is a tad much for the track - the bass begins to overshadow the pianos and vocals a tad, although does not muddle them up like less quality headphones with too much bass would do. RE272 on the other hand, just produce the most perfect bass I've heard. It's deep, very detailed and unbelievably tight for a dynamic driver, and this track really shows it well. Definitely in a different league altogether vs. FX700. Also, the reverb that RE272 is able to reproduce with this track is awesome. The track seems to be represented in its entirety with all the details intact with the RE272. FX700 doesn't really hide information either, but it's just not as clean and articulate in representing it as RE272 is, especially in the low end where like I said, FX700 sounds somewhat boomy and definitely too powerful compared to the Hifimans.


Edited by Pianist - 8/11/11 at 4:26pm
post #1810 of 3000

Nice impressions my friend, especially against the FX700!

 

Please, to any and all videogame/metal lovers out there, give this channel a listen. On both the 262/EX, the tracks simply stunning! Albeit I must admit, the 262 wasn't at all behind the EX in those tracks, and may very well gain the edge based solely on preference. Anyways, no more wasting time. Go! Listen! etysmile.gif

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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

I think it's time to debunk the EX1000s! Time for ALL those EX1000 owners to do a massive U-turn, wake up and start a mass exodus from the EX1000 to a lot less expensive (and fancy) alternatives.

LOL, while I like to think that I 'get your humour' most of the time, I cant be sure if you're joking here or not. Either way, if such a thing were to happen, that would only solidify the EX1000 a FOTM in the minds of many detractors, IMO. So I hope that doesnt happen for the sake of these 'phones. True, I haven't heard them myself but with such recognition coming from discerning individuals like yourself, I'm hard pressed to think theyre anything but great. Hmm...sounds like I'm sucking up. huh? LOL biggrin.gif
 

 



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Originally Posted by i2ehan View Post

To provide a better example of why I prefer the EX over the 262, in the following track (while just one example), the EX1000 sounds incredibly natural, whereas the 262's mids sound much too accentuated, which of course to some ears may very well be the preferred choice. I must admit however, the 262's enveloping mid-centric sound makes it seem as though I'm standing over, almost looking down at the piano, and can feel the reverb off of every note as it's being struck (in reference to the piano segment beginning at 5 minutes), whereas with the EX1000, while not as engaging as the 262, it's as though I'm giving the player his/her space, and admiring from a close distance, better able to perceive the distance between each note as the keys are struck. Hence preference comes to play here, and mine tends to fall on the latter, where my attention is drawn not mostly towards the mids, but to all frequencies alike. smile.gif

Interesting. yet another one to add to list of 'wants'. Hehehe.
 

 



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Well, I just listened to the beginning of that track now with RE272 out of my laptop's onboard soundcard. Good music! I will get to that 5 minute piano segment a bit later, but for now I can say that the first couple of minutes sound quite balanced to me with RE272. I don't feel like the piano is too emphasized, nor is the singer's voice. The bass sounds incredibly tight with the RE272. Really tight, defined, perfectly controlled, and seems to go pretty low here. The highs have good presence. The overall sound strikes me as extremely clean/crystal clear, although I feel it could use a bit more texture. Soundstage is fine - no 3 blobs in the head feeling - with good depth. Dynamics are effortless. Overall, not jaw dropping or anything, but just very nice, clear sound with good sense of atmosphere.

 

EDIT: Ok, I just listened to the track again, this time with FX700 and then switched to RE272 again. The JVCs manage a more airy soundstage than the RE272 I think. That is you literally get a sense that the sound interacts with the outside world around you. With RE272, it's different. The sound is more closed, but it's like that of a really hi-fi closed back can - it is more closed, but also thicker, more substantial sounding than what the JVCs produce. JVCs sound a tad thin by comparison, almost anemic in the mids, although bass and highs are fine. The bass is clearly higher quality on the RE272 though. FX700s sound a tad boomy down there by comparison and I think the quantity is a tad much for the track - the bass begins to overshadow the pianos and vocals a tad, although does not muddle them up like less quality headphones with too much bass would do. RE272 on the other hand, just produce the most perfect bass I've heard. It's deep, very detailed and unbelievably tight for a dynamic driver, and this track really shows it well. Definitely in a different league altogether vs. FX700. Also, the reverb that RE272 is able to reproduce with this track is awesome. The track seems to be represented in its entirety with all the details intact with the RE272. FX700 doesn't really hide information either, but it's just not as clean and articulate in representing it as RE272 is, especially in the low end where like I said, FX700 sounds somewhat boomy and definitely too powerful compared to the Hifimans.


Excellent impression, Pianist. That certainly makes me want to try all these dynamics driver IEMS as soon as I can. FX700, GR07, RE262 and RE272. Jaben should have 'em i think. Still dunno where I can audition the Sony's tho.

 

post #1812 of 3000

The Fx700's are next on my list ;)

post #1813 of 3000

Actually you can @Heretic. If you are in Malaysia, give Jaben a visit. They have both EX1000 and FX700.

 

But I'm not sure bout the 272, 262; and GR07 is also very rare to audition here.

 

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LOL, while I like to think that I 'get your humour' most of the time, I cant be sure if you're joking here or not. Either way, if such a thing were to happen, that would only solidify the EX1000 a FOTM in the minds of many detractors, IMO. So I hope that doesnt happen for the sake of these 'phones. True, I haven't heard them myself but with such recognition coming from discerning individuals like yourself, I'm hard pressed to think theyre anything but great. Hmm...sounds like I'm sucking up. huh? LOL biggrin.gif
 

 



Interesting. yet another one to add to list of 'wants'. Hehehe.
 

 




Excellent impression, Pianist. That certainly makes me want to try all these dynamics driver IEMS as soon as I can. FX700, GR07, RE262 and RE272. Jaben should have 'em i think. Still dunno where I can audition the Sony's tho.

 



 

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Originally Posted by kingice10 View Post

Actually you can @Heretic. If you are in Malaysia, give Jaben a visit. They have both EX1000 and FX700.

 

But I'm not sure bout the 272, 262; and GR07 is also very rare to audition here.

 

 

Really? Jaben has the EX1000? Didnt notice it being mentioned on their blog. They have the GR07 for sale so Im sure they have it for demo as well. They usually do. I know they carry a few of HifiMan's RE series, altho not sure about the RE272 as its pretty new, right? Never seen JVCs on their list but I'm hopeful. Thanks for the tip tho.

 

If indeed they have em all or most of em, it will be a fruitful visit this weekend. Hoping I can make it there this weekend. THey're only a 10min drive from home. But seeing as how i tend to spend far too long there when i go to audition stuff, the wife may well make a big fuss about it. LOL.
 

 

post #1815 of 3000

You might wanna call them first just to make sure if they have what you want to audition...

 

Now I'm getting curious about GR07

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