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post #646 of 1378
10/13/12 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by soundstige View Post

Pull the top of your ear back and towards your skull as you insert the IEM.

 

 

I tried that, but it just reforms the vacuum.

 

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Originally Posted by KimChee View Post

How are planning to vent the earpiece?  With a punch or a drill?  Just curious

 

I'm not sure yet.

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post #647 of 1378
10/13/12 at 8:39am
^ Why not try to vent the tip? Should be easier imo and non-destructive to the IEMs. FAD use vented tips for their 1601 models.
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post #648 of 1378
10/13/12 at 8:41am
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^ Why not try to vent the tip? Should be easier imo and non-destructive to the IEMs. FAD use vented tips for their 1601 models.

 

I thought about it, but I wasn't sure if it would make much of a difference, or where to put the hole.

 

Where's the vent on the 1601 tip?

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post #649 of 1378
10/13/12 at 8:51am

you might want to get customs. I think it might have more to do with the position of the driver in the ear when the seal is broken as opposed to any venting. I could be wrong, but I don't see how a broken seal would help the sound.

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post #650 of 1378
10/13/12 at 10:23am

I don't really think it's the driver, as this doesn't happen with non-vacuum iems. It's more a matter of airflow.

 

In my left ear, there's high pressure between the driver and my eardrum, which I think impacts the movement of both. Removing this pressure (via venting) will allow for better flexing of my eardrum.

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post #651 of 1378
10/13/12 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by soundstige View Post

Pull the top of your ear back and towards your skull as you insert the IEM.

 

Or try pulling the ear straight out, up and away from your skull as you insert the IEM. This should open the earl canal and allow you to insert the earpiece without cramming air pressure inside. 

 

Also, I don't think you mentioned what tips you're using?

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post #652 of 1378
10/13/12 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

Or try pulling the ear straight out, up and away from your skull as you insert the IEM. This should open the earl canal and allow you to insert the earpiece without cramming air pressure inside. 

 

Also, I don't think you mentioned what tips you're using?

 

I'm using the standard clear triples.

 

I've found that inserting using a twisting motion helps a lot. I'll look into venting the tips.

 

 

Well I found this on DFKT's review of James' 1601.

 

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I don't think I have the skills or tools to do that, so I'll just wing it. I'll posts results later, for better or worse.


Edited by eke2k6 - 10/13/12 at 10:58am
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post #653 of 1378
10/13/12 at 11:47am
Have you tried foam tips? Like the kind that come with the ER4 that you smash down before inserting. Or Complys. Less vacuum issues I think.
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post #654 of 1378
10/13/12 at 2:14pm

Yes, foam. The reason they could solve the vacuum issue is having squashed the foam before insertion and they expand to seal, so it's not like pushing something deep straight in that could catch some air. I am using Shure olives on my HF3's. At some point I might try the triple flange again, but these are just so comfortable. 

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post #655 of 1378
10/13/12 at 4:41pm

+1 to foams. Shure Olives are my favorite.

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post #656 of 1378
10/13/12 at 8:47pm

Ok, so I got out my swiss army knife,and tried to place strategic holes in the triples...no dice. So, I just decided to go to town of the tips. The holes aren't even large (or visible), but they made no difference.

 

I looked in my tip drawer and found one pair of Shure Olives left over from my SE215 days, and followed the advice to squish them before inserting. It works well enough, except that I have very stuffed-feeling canals now. It's worth it now that I'm getting balanced sound. 

 

Thanks for the advice guys. You saved my warranty.

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post #657 of 1378
10/13/12 at 9:02pm

If you don't have the small olives, maybe it's a good idea to get them. Less stuffed feeling than medium or the humungous large ones. eek.gif

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post #658 of 1378
10/13/12 at 9:02pm

Can I delete a double post?


Edited by FieldingMellish - 10/13/12 at 9:03pm
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post #659 of 1378
10/13/12 at 11:27pm
No the second post of shame must remain.
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post #660 of 1378
10/14/12 at 3:14am
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No the second post of shame must remain.

 

And we'll remember you, FieldingMellish, we'll remember you....

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