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post #4531 of 4669
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Originally Posted by vechung View Post


Hi

Do you have a link for getting the westone cable?

Westone cables:

http://www.westone.com/store/index.php/westone-music-products/accessories/epic-replacement-cables.html

 

Etymotic cable adapter for Westone cables:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOR-ETYMOTIC-ER4-IN-EARPHONE-CABLE-ADAPTOR-S-/300592438512?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item45fcb49cf0

 

Make sure you insert the cables the right way round. You'll have to do a polarity test to verify you got it correct (if it doesn't sound right, just swap one of the channels):

http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_polaritycheck.php

post #4532 of 4669

Brilliant thanks a million!

post #4533 of 4669

I wonder which eartips people actually prefer to use. In my first 4 hours of use, and not sure actually which type is better. These inner ear canal sensations are too new for me. 
But at the moment foams seems the one not hurting my ears way too much.
May be Etymotic chose 3-flange for the cover just because it looks better while most people prefer foams?

 


Edited by oxygen1 - 6/7/14 at 9:40am
post #4534 of 4669
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Originally Posted by oxygen1 View Post
 

I wonder which eartips people actually prefer to use. In my first 4 hours of use, and not sure actually which type is better. These inner ear canal sensations are too new for me. 
But at the moment foams seems the one not hurting my ears way too much.
May be Etymotic chose 3-flange for the cover just because it looks better while most people prefer foams?

 

 

I went through every possible tip about 10 times short term and long term. Ultimately, for me, tri flange silicon sound the best when sealed deep and tight. But they are the least comfortable. Comply standard T100 tips or whatever series they are (not the long or pro version) sound almost identical if you make sure the foam doesn't pass the nozzle. You can do this by pulling the foam back and squeezing it to compress it. Don't roll the foam between your fingers. They also seem to last longer this way.

 

For me, the comply are the most comfortable by an enormous margin. And when fitted deep enough and with the foam not passing the nozzle I'd say the sound is probably 95-98% the same as the silicon. I won't call it worse, but for me it's slightly different. I get the impression the lows and mids are more even and neutral with the comply, but the triple flange has a very slight improvement in bass impact tightness and treble extension. But I'd take the comply over a triple flange in general.

 

If I was being super critical though, and all that mattered was sound, I'd go with the ety brand tri flange.

 

Of the other tips out there, the ones gnarlsagan recommended from amazon are good. The tri flange need to be cut down a bit for me and the biflange might need the stem shortened, but either way, they're a good ety alternative. The ety foam is excellent too, but they are thicker and stiffer than comply. but they don't seem to cut any treble at all whereas the comply might if you don't get the foam right. They tend to be less comfortable after a while though, and I almost require a half way tip between small and medium for ety foam, but they don't make that...

 

I'd try any tip you can find that fits. And if it's larger cut the stem off of a tip that does fit and put the larger tip over that over the ety nozzle..

post #4535 of 4669
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Originally Posted by oxygen1 View Post

I wonder which eartips people actually prefer to use. In my first 4 hours of use, and not sure actually which type is better. These inner ear canal sensations are too new for me. 

But at the moment foams seems the one not hurting my ears way too much.

May be Etymotic chose 3-flange for the cover just because it looks better while most people prefer foams?


 

I agreed with luisdent's impressions. Your ear structure however will dictate what tips work best for you. There are some Amazon black biflanges I linked a few times in this thread that work best for me.
post #4536 of 4669

Thank you guys. Just ordered some Comply T100 tips, will see if it ease it a bit. If not.. well, they are going straight to For Sale section as I have IE80 i'm somewhat happy with.

With small 3-flange I can get a really deep, almost full length seal.

While with foams, it's basically just normal IEM length insertion, so they stick out of ears really far away. Is it OK?

post #4537 of 4669
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Originally Posted by oxygen1 View Post

Thank you guys. Just ordered some Comply T100 tips, will see if it ease it a bit. If not.. well, they are going straight to For Sale section as I have IE80 i'm somewhat happy with.


With small 3-flange I can get a really deep, almost full length seal.
While with foams, it's basically just normal IEM length insertion, so they stick out of ears really far away. Is it OK?
The ety foam is hard to insert very deeply. If you compress the comply tips, pull up on your ear lobe and insert them quick but smooth, you should be able to get the deepest fit yet. I can get them where the angled part of the housing is against my ear with nothing sticking out greatly.., this gives me the best possible bass levels while still being confortable.
post #4538 of 4669

Just out of curiosity, does anyone want a ER4P to ER4S adapter? I just checked my tip bag, and I found one. It's the original from Etymotic.

post #4539 of 4669
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Originally Posted by oxygen1 View Post
 

Thank you guys. Just ordered some Comply T100 tips, will see if it ease it a bit. If not.. well, they are going straight to For Sale section as I have IE80 i'm somewhat happy with.

With small 3-flange I can get a really deep, almost full length seal.

While with foams, it's basically just normal IEM length insertion, so they stick out of ears really far away. Is it OK?

 

I have very narrow canals, I use the T100 but trim some foam from the back end. They isolate a little less but I don't often listen while standing next to a jet engine so it's okay ;-) but they are more comfy like that.

post #4540 of 4669
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Originally Posted by redrich2000 View Post
 

 

I have very narrow canals, I use the T100 but trim some foam from the back end. They isolate a little less but I don't often listen while standing next to a jet engine so it's okay ;-) but they are more comfy like that.

From what I understood while using them for 3 days, if there is no proper hardcore, deep, airtight seal = there is no bass whatsoever. 
If I seal them quite shallow, they are somewhat bearable but sound is totally not what I want.

post #4541 of 4669

So anybody have any recommendations for a replacement cable other than Westone?

post #4542 of 4669

Is there such thing as burn in for ER-4PT or other armature IEMs?

post #4543 of 4669
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Is there such thing as burn in for ER-4PT or other armature IEMs?

It hasn't been proven or disproven.  I've seen FR graph showing off no siginificant difference after running them for a period of time, but not sure if that's all there is to it.  The graph doesn't measure driver controls, how well the drivers are controlled during output.  Possibly resonance graph would show that, I dunno.

post #4544 of 4669
What about anecdotal evidence then?
post #4545 of 4669

I'm not a strong believer of burn-in after effects for BA IEMs but never the less I actually burned in my ER4PT for 50-60 hours initially when I first got them and couldn't tell the difference but of course that's to my hearing. This may differ from those born with Golden Ears that can pick up 0.5dB or 1 dB difference on the frequency spectrum :D

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