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The foams are terrific (complys are best) but you will still be inserting them very deep.

 

I have no issue driving the 4s with any portable device. An amp may be nice but is not a requirement.

I'm currently using a Soundmagic E10 with the tips that came with it. The isolation is poor. If I get some complys foam tips is it likely that the isolation will be comparable to the ER 4 series or do the ER 4 series derive their isolation properties from something other than the tips?

 

Secondly what's your opinion on the ER 4S vs 4PT debate?

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The foams are terrific (complys are best) but you will still be inserting them very deep.

I have no issue driving the 4s with any portable device. An amp may be nice but is not a requirement.
I'm currently using a Soundmagic E10 with the tips that came with it. The isolation is poor. If I get some complys foam tips is it likely that the isolation will be comparable to the ER 4 series or do the ER 4 series derive their isolation properties from something other than the tips?

Secondly what's your opinion on the ER 4S vs 4PT debate?
Isolation is not only the tips. Foam or silicon. It has to do with the way the housing os shaped/sealed as well. Depth isn't ciritical for er4 isolation, but it does help.
post #4098 of 5040

Ok great, so I've decided to get one of the Etymotic IEMs, I'm still deciding between the ER4S, ER4PT and HF3. In the UK the HF3 is going for around half the price of the other two i.e. £85 vs £160. Any suggestions? Isolation is my biggest concern, a well behaved treble and a decent bass response would be a distant second requirement. Considering the price difference which should I go for? 


Edited by PTom - 3/15/14 at 8:19am
post #4099 of 5040
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Ok great, so I've decided to get one of the Etymotic IEMs, I'm still deciding between the ER4S, ER4PT and HF3. In the UK the HF3 is going for around half the price of the other two i.e. £85 vs £160. Any suggestions? Isolation is my biggest concern, a well behaved treble and a decent bass response would be a distant second requirement. Considering the price difference which should I go for? 
If you get the pt just get the adapter as well. Pt cones with airline stuff. Otherwise er4s all the way. I don't use any amp regularly with my fuze or ipod.
Any er4 is the best isolation you're gonna get.
post #4100 of 5040

Have you tried the HF3?

post #4101 of 5040

Also is the 4PT with adaptor identical to the 4S?

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Have you tried the HF3?
o, but i've used hf5. Er4s is better in all ways. :-P

P is an s with adapter. It is supposed to be identical. The er4s has a resistor in the middle of the cable, all the adapter does is make the p resistance the same as the s. Otherwise they are the same sound.
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o, but i've used hf5. Er4s is better in all ways. :-P

Does that include better isolation?

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o, but i've used hf5. Er4s is better in all ways. :-P
Does that include better isolation?
No. They're about the same isolation. Sound is better.
post #4105 of 5040

Does anyone know how the isolation of the Shure SE535 compares to the Etymotic ER 4 series?

post #4106 of 5040
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Does anyone know how the isolation of the Shure SE535 compares to the Etymotic ER 4 series?

 

I know exactly how they compare.  I used to have the 535.  The 535 is reasonable isolation, but the er4 is noticeably more.  If I had to guess (and this is just a guess).  I'd say the 535 is in the range of 20-30db depending on tips.  The er4 is in the range of 30-40 depending on tips.  So, while the 535 is definitely good and better than some, the er4 can't be beat.

post #4107 of 5040

And how do they compare in terms of SQ?

post #4108 of 5040
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And how do they compare in terms of SQ?
Me? I find the 535 has too much treble rolloff. Some might argue the er4s has bass rolloff. Both are true, but the 535 is just too much for me. The er4s is slight if you like a very neutral sound. Eq helps the er4s more than the 535 as well. Overall they both have reasonable low distortion and good quality, but the er4s is just more neutral and natural sounding... Add better isolation and it's even nicer because you're just fighting with ambient noise that much less.
post #4109 of 5040
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Ok great, so I've decided to get one of the Etymotic IEMs, I'm still deciding between the ER4S, ER4PT and HF3. In the UK the HF3 is going for around half the price of the other two i.e. £85 vs £160. Any suggestions? Isolation is my biggest concern, a well behaved treble and a decent bass response would be a distant second requirement. Considering the price difference which should I go for? 

ER4PT = ER4S and ER4P in one package. ER4PT without included resistor plug = ER4P and ER4PT with included resistor plug = ER4S
post #4110 of 5040
I listened to a friend's SE535 yesterday and boy am I glad that i own the ER4PT. I totally agree with luisdent, the SE535 highs are too recessed. The concentration is on accentuated low mid therefore it sounds rather warm with the expense of very recessed details which diminish the sparkle and sheen on cymbals (veiled sound). The ER4 just simply sound more natural overall and I find the bass to be very tight and accurate. It also handles fast transients from percussive instruments very well. Isolation wise SE535 is no where near ER4's level of isolation. This is my personal opinion after spending an hour or so with the SE535.
Edited by Francisk - 3/15/14 at 7:26pm
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