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post #4081 of 4970
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Originally Posted by groovyd View Post
 

would be nice if those ebay adapters came in various resistances.  I would choose 50ohm instead of 100 and get a bit of a compromise in linearity vs power output.  I really hate carrying around a portable amp.

You could always the ER4PT w/ adapter. For the occasional out and about, it really is quite good on its own, though different than the ER4S. 

post #4082 of 4970
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post
 

Has anyone tried the E12DIY w/ the ER4S? I'm currently debating between that and the C5. Doesn't seen like there are a lot of options between 100-300 to consider that can match up the ER4S' ability to retrieve detail and their neutrality. 

 

Unrelated-ish, but I like my X3 with the ER4S. The C5 is a great amp, though the E12DIY has more options to play with. You may also consider the UHA-6S MKII, or whatever it's called.

post #4083 of 4970
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Originally Posted by mosshorn View Post
 

 

Unrelated-ish, but I like my X3 with the ER4S. The C5 is a great amp, though the E12DIY has more options to play with. You may also consider the UHA-6S MKII, or whatever it's called.

The leckerton was on my radar, too. Kind of a weird time for portable audio. It seems like portable amps will be on the way out, with such good options like the X3 and X5  coming out w/ decent amps, especially as apple loses its monopoly on portable audio. At the same time, some of the best new headphones, especially closed back, have been low enough impedance to not need a dedicated amp (HP50, Focal Spirit Pro). It's a good time to be in portable headfi. But a slightly strange time to be having an ipod classic... 

post #4084 of 4970

a good pair of headphones should make an un-amped ipod even sound great.  just not worth carrying the amp around.  got an XM6 for sale if interested.

post #4085 of 4970
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Has anyone tried the E12DIY w/ the ER4S? I'm currently debating between that and the C5. Doesn't seen like there are a lot of options between 100-300 to consider that can match up the ER4S' ability to retrieve detail and their neutrality. 

Tralucent T1. Works well with ER4S. Or JDS C421 if you can find one.
Edited by H20Fidelity - 3/12/14 at 4:55pm
post #4086 of 4970
The Centrance HiFi-M8 works wonderfully with my ER4PT with the adapter (ER4S). The best thing is that I can play HD files (24/96 and 24/192) in full native resolution with my iPhone 4S running Flac Player app using the Apple CCK (Camera Connection Kit) option. Thanks for ExpatInJapan for pointing this out.
post #4087 of 4970

I have been using the Centrance M8 with a pair of ER4-P added a 50 Ohm impedance adapter hits really hits the sweet spot for me. I also have a pair of ER-S so in vivo I have been able to mess around with them comparing the differences by using a switch box and the two outputs of the M8. 

 

Purely my own personal experience and how I perceive any given and incoming sound to my ears and my ears only..  The impedance differences may be vague to many but to me at least it did the trick that I really like the Ety's more than before..  So I do encourage anyone/owners of the Ety's to each do their own experimentation to find their sweet spot or maybe not..

post #4088 of 4970
I can't stand the er4s. Where did any of you ever get any idea otherwise?
post #4089 of 4970
Ok, that last post was a complete joke, but i have noticed a horrible trend with my ears and the er4s. Every time i start using them for longer periods again, i develope some sort of keft ear problem. Usually fluid in the eustachian tube or something. Not really the er4s fault, but i'm guessing moisture is trapped, combined with any sort of pressure or vacuum they create, causing the issue. It is infuriating! I can't even listen to piano music for days. It sounds like tinnitus and my left ear is a different pitch than my right. Bah!

This is the third time i noticed it develop after long er4s usage. Not even that long, but maybe a few hours. I tried putting some swiimers ear drops in last night and i think it helped it from getting worse, as this time isthe least bad. :-(

What does an audiophile do?! I don't want hours of enjoyment to end with days of frustration. :-/

And just when i was perfecting my eq. I started finding i needed to eq things weirdly. Then i realized what was happening. It always starts that way. Never had a problem with any other earphone. Then again, no other earphone reaches your brain. But maybe that's why they sound so good. :-O
Edited by luisdent - 3/14/14 at 4:07pm
post #4090 of 4970
Luisdent, I think a trip to your nearest audiologist will help diagnose the problem. It just might be an ear infection which can be rectified easily. Also take note that headphone listening of 100dB above for an extended period of time can damage our ears so be careful with the volume if you're planning to work with your headphones for a long duration.
post #4091 of 4970
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Originally Posted by Francisk View Post

Luisdent, I think a trip to your nearest audiologist will help diagnose the problem. It just might be an ear infection which can be rectified easily. Also take note that headphone listening of 100dB above for an extended period of time can damage our ears so be careful with the volume if you're planning to work with your headphones for a long duration.
Been the last two times. One was an infection and possibly not er4 related although did coincide with usage. All three times i had used the triflange tips for hours. Usually i use foam and more off and on. The second time was fluid trapped in the inner ear. This is the same symptom. No pain, just fluid effects.

I never listen that loud. I'm very decibel concious. I measure everything! Haha my concerts, server room, car audio. I listen between 80-85db usually. In longer sessions i typically actually turn it down lower. I find the more relaxed i am the less volume i need. Based on all my external listening and measurements i'd guess i'm never over 90db with my er4s. Usually lower. Closer to 70-80db.
Edited by luisdent - 3/14/14 at 10:26pm
post #4092 of 4970

I'm most interested in the famous isolation properties of this series. My question is, is it necessary to insert the tips very deeply inside the ear to get the best isolation or will using for example foam tip still give great isolation?

post #4093 of 4970

Also is it correct in saying that the ER4S has better sound quality but requires an amp but the ER4PT is more portable?

post #4094 of 4970
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Originally Posted by PTom View Post
 

I'm most interested in the famous isolation properties of this series. My question is, is it necessary to insert the tips very deeply inside the ear to get the best isolation or will using for example foam tip still give great isolation?


The foams are terrific (complys are best) but you will still be inserting them very deep.

 

I have no issue driving the 4s with any portable device. An amp may be nice but is not a requirement.

post #4095 of 4970

So i know how good the er4p/s is being an owner but the cable has thrown in the towel , most likely near the y splitter which means i have only the faintest sound coming thru .

I have replaced the filters with new ones  and it is out of warranty purchased over 5 years ago .

As it looks  like i need a cable replacement , can anyone hear offer a suggestion in the options available ?

Very interested in others experience as i am sure im not the first er4p/s with such a cable ..

Thanks for any input )

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