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Originally Posted by Mooses9 View Post
 

what benifits do you find with the red filters vs the Green?

It brings the treble down a small notch which I find brings it more in line with the bass. Better balance, and less fatigue during long sessions IMO.

post #3722 of 10425
The trips definitely sound the best to me but my ears physically fatigue after an hour or two with them and I have to stop using the er4

I tried the Westone star tips and that was the most comfortable the er4 has ever been. But the sound wasn't good. I think the silicone was too thin for that deep a fit and seal suffered and treble was shrill.

Anyway I was hoping the true fit foams would give me the comfort of the star tips but get close to the ety trips in sound. Shure olives don't go deep enough for me. They're just too short. I thought if trying comply P's but they are so expensive.
post #3723 of 10425

Try Klipsch Bi-flange.

post #3724 of 10425
I've been lucky with the triple flanges I find the to be softer than the triples that come with shures. I do see where over a long period of time there could be pressure from the tip causing discomfort.

I find there to be no better tip than the triple for the er4. I have them on all my Etys the er4p er4s er4pt hf2's mc3s...Best Isolation I've Ever Had With ANY IEM .

I guess it's just hit or miss
post #3725 of 10425

Yeah I think you'd be hard pressed to find better sound from another tip.  My biggest complaint is that I get distracted by the discomfort- meaning the discomfort isn't THAT bad, more so it is my distraction by it.  I start focusing on it rather than the music. 

post #3726 of 10425
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post
 

Yeah I think you'd be hard pressed to find better sound from another tip.  My biggest complaint is that I get distracted by the discomfort- meaning the discomfort isn't THAT bad, more so it is my distraction by it.  I start focusing on it rather than the music. 

 

I'm a tri flange fan, but they can be tough for me sometimes.  I have avoided the comply foam, because they wear away and need replacing, and they reduce a bit of high frequencies.

 

However, I found that if I insert them uber deep they are not only comfortable, but I don't really notice any high frequency degradation.  I'm actually using the standard pfe112 medium comply foam tips, but they fit the er4s, and I assume they're identical to the er4s standard comply tips, except possibly the nozzle hole size.  But they need to be deep.  I think some people will assume they fit more comfortably in the ear because the foam doesn't have to go in as far and it expands.  Not true.  I put them in just as deep if not more so than the triple flange.  I'm loving them.

 

This doesn't eliminate the wear, but they seem to be holding up well enough for now.  Time will tell.

post #3727 of 10425

Just got my Westone cable and Er4s adapters. Shipping was only a week for both, nice surprise!

 

Removing original cables was a piece of cake.  Original cable ohmed out at 106.9 L 107.1 R.  The new adapters ohmed out at 106.0 L 106.1 R, so about 1 ohm lower and a slightly better match according to the Fluke.

 

Over the ears is easy and comfortable.  Bend the clear plastic stems to stay put and they hold perfectly.  Sound awesome and no more weight around my neck or micro phonics!  Very happy camper :ksc75smile: 

 

Should be the OEM setup.


Edited by groovyd - 1/28/14 at 6:38pm
post #3728 of 10425
Good luck....


On another note do you guys think the apuresound cable is worth the money. It's only copper and while it's a little more lower profile connectors not really sure it'd worth what their asking?
post #3729 of 10425
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Originally Posted by Mooses9 View Post

Good luck....


On another note do you guys think the apuresound cable is worth the money. It's only copper and while it's a little more lower profile connectors not really sure it'd worth what their asking?

That's a tough question. I haven't used it, but I've been o the verge of buying it multiple times. I can't bring myself to spend the money. With my current over the ear setup, I have zero issues with microphonics and mobile use. If I wasn't able to wear the ER4S over the ear, then I'd probably spring for the cable begrudgingly.
post #3730 of 10425
Hi Zowski,

Nice cable set up.
What are those?

Thanks
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Originally Posted by zowki View Post

Hey guys, just thought I'd share my impression of my Unique Melody Miracle (universal fit) compared to the Etymotic ER4S. I get a fairly good seal on the Miracle universal fit with Meelectronic single flange small tips. I use Etymotic foam tips with my ER4S which work wonders for isolation and sound quality.

Even though the Etymotic ER4S is 4 times cheaper, I still prefer it over the Miracle. The ER4S is more neutral and accurate. The Miracle has slow bloated bass, a harsh 6KHz peak, recessed upper treble and mids. The ER4S is pretty much the same in many technicalities such as soundstage, details, and frequency extension. Technically the ER4S has better bass. It is more tight, controlled, and detailed. The Miracle's vocals lack intimacy due to recessed upper treble and mids.

The Miracle has a warm and relaxed sound (as long as the recording isn't active in the 6KHz region) that was fun to listen for the first few hours but then I wanted to go back to my ER4S for more serious listening.




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Pretty cheap er4p right now. With an adapter from ebay you can have an er4s for less than $250. Not bad...
Edited by luisdent - 1/28/14 at 8:34pm
post #3732 of 10425
Gnarlsagan, what were those black tips you were using? I think they were biflanges? Do you have a link?
post #3733 of 10425
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

Gnarlsagan, what were those black tips you were using? I think they were biflanges? Do you have a link?

Yeah it's these. Still using them, and they're as comfortable as ever. I got lucky as they fit literally perfectly for my ear. I get a perfect seal at the correct depth. I do use some little Monster rubber bands around the barrel of the ER4S, and then fit the tips over those so that the tips fit more tightly on the barrel.
post #3734 of 10425
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Originally Posted by markanini View Post
 

Try Klipsch Bi-flange.

These?

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007X8LH5Y/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A10S6OB23UD1NX

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Those aren't Klipsch, but I do recommend them over the Klipsch biflange unless you have small ears. I have relatively small ears and even the large Klipsch biflange were too small for me. The tips you just linked are the ones I use, and the ones I just recommended in the post above yours. They're just a little bigger than the large Klipsch biflange.
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