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post #3706 of 4813
I think the ER4S is the way to go rather then p.... The p sounds almost muddy when you have a good source and amp along with the s.
post #3707 of 4813
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Originally Posted by OJNeg View Post

I have the ER4PT on hand myself. And I have to say that I hear the difference between with and without the S adapter more along the lines of how the HeadRoom plots portray it. S adapter gives more clarity, more "air", more accurate all around. At the cost of that little 8k peak adding a bit of glare. But it definitely makes the ER4PT seem mid-fi in comparison.

Rest easy luis, your ER4S is still better than the PT configuration. At least by what I interpret to be your standards.
Bwaha! :-p. I'm happy with my er4s, don't you worry. I just think the graphs are misleading. The 4pt sound seems further from the s to my ears than these graphs are portraying. Oh well. Off to listen to them now!
post #3708 of 4813

Hey guys, just thought I'd share my impression of my Unique Melody Miracle (universal fit) compared to the Etymotic ER4S. I get a fairly good seal on the Miracle universal fit with Meelectronic single flange small tips. I use Etymotic foam tips with my ER4S which work wonders for isolation and sound quality.

 

Even though the Etymotic ER4S is 4 times cheaper, I still prefer it over the Miracle. The ER4S is more neutral and accurate. The Miracle has slow bloated bass, a harsh 6KHz peak, recessed upper treble and mids. The ER4S is pretty much the same in many technicalities such as soundstage, details, and frequency extension. Technically the ER4S has better bass. It is more tight, controlled, and detailed. The Miracle's vocals lack intimacy due to recessed upper treble and mids.

 

The Miracle has a warm and relaxed sound (as long as the recording isn't active in the 6KHz region) that was fun to listen for the first few hours but then I wanted to go back to my ER4S for more serious listening.

 

 

 

post #3709 of 4813

They're the same tips I use on my ER4S, can't settle for anything less, also the only earphone I use foam tips with, gives me the right sound. I dislike foam on any other IEM personally.

post #3710 of 4813

S adapters shipping and the westone cable arrived, very nice.  light yet good quality.  hopefully the adapters really do a good job replacing the heavy Ety cable with splitter and then i am rolling over ear :ksc75smile: 

post #3711 of 4813

Great groovyd, please keep us posted with your new cable and adapter experience. Havr fun :etysmile:

post #3712 of 4813

wow i got into the bees nest.....i have alot to read through lol.....

 

I Have A S adapter, FREE, the 3.5mm  pin is slightly bent it could be straightened out, it works perfectly fine just that bend free, all i ask is 2.00 paypal gifted i dont have a use for it and wanna pass it along


Edited by Mooses9 - 1/24/14 at 8:40am
post #3713 of 4813
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Originally Posted by zowki View Post

Hey guys, just thought I'd share my impression of my Unique Melody Miracle (universal fit) compared to the Etymotic ER4S. I get a fairly good seal on the Miracle universal fit with Meelectronic single flange small tips. I use Etymotic foam tips with my ER4S which work wonders for isolation and sound quality.

Even though the Etymotic ER4S is 4 times cheaper, I still prefer it over the Miracle. The ER4S is more neutral and accurate. The Miracle has slow bloated bass, a harsh 6KHz peak, recessed upper treble and mids. The ER4S is pretty much the same in many technicalities such as soundstage, details, and frequency extension. Technically the ER4S has better bass. It is more tight, controlled, and detailed. The Miracle's vocals lack intimacy due to recessed upper treble and mids.

The Miracle has a warm and relaxed sound (as long as the recording isn't active in the 6KHz region) that was fun to listen for the first few hours but then I wanted to go back to my ER4S for more serious listening.





Wow thanks for your honest Miracle impressions. It's hard to find someone who can specifically point out FR flaws in that iem. I've been waiting a long time.

Joker seems to put the Miracle up with the all time best. I wonder if his tastes have changed after all this time? I'd love to get his take on a red-filtered ER4S.
post #3714 of 4813
Has anyone tried the Westone True Fit foam tips on the er4? If so, which is closer to the ety trips- blue or red foams? How do they sound?

Also, any of you er4 guys tried the ACS T15?
post #3715 of 4813
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

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Originally Posted by zowki View Post

Hey guys, just thought I'd share my impression of my Unique Melody Miracle (universal fit) compared to the Etymotic ER4S. I get a fairly good seal on the Miracle universal fit with Meelectronic single flange small tips. I use Etymotic foam tips with my ER4S which work wonders for isolation and sound quality.

Even though the Etymotic ER4S is 4 times cheaper, I still prefer it over the Miracle. The ER4S is more neutral and accurate. The Miracle has slow bloated bass, a harsh 6KHz peak, recessed upper treble and mids. The ER4S is pretty much the same in many technicalities such as soundstage, details, and frequency extension. Technically the ER4S has better bass. It is more tight, controlled, and detailed. The Miracle's vocals lack intimacy due to recessed upper treble and mids.

The Miracle has a warm and relaxed sound (as long as the recording isn't active in the 6KHz region) that was fun to listen for the first few hours but then I wanted to go back to my ER4S for more serious listening.





Wow thanks for your honest Miracle impressions. It's hard to find someone who can specifically point out FR flaws in that iem. I've been waiting a long time.

Joker seems to put the Miracle up with the all time best. I wonder if his tastes have changed after all this time? I'd love to get his take on a red-filtered ER4S.
Me too. I tried a lot of iems based on his impressions.
post #3716 of 4813

I read jokers review but man oh man I wish he would put some of that iem budget towards a better source and amp.  Hard for the greats to shine when tied down by the front end :(

post #3717 of 4813
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

Has anyone tried the Westone True Fit foam tips on the er4? If so, which is closer to the ety trips- blue or red foams? How do they sound?

Also, any of you er4 guys tried the ACS T15?

I tried using the True Fit Foams on the ER4 a while back and I must admit that didn't like them as much as the Shure olives or the Ety triple flangers, although they were much more comfortable I felt they muffled the sound too much, tamed the treble and decreased the soundstage.

 

I can't quite remember if the blue or red foam was the closest to the triple flanger. I think it was the shortest one, the red one?

post #3718 of 4813
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Originally Posted by Jupiterknight View Post
 

I tried using the True Fit Foams on the ER4 a while back and I must admit that didn't like them as much as the Shure olives or the Ety triple flangers, although they were much more comfortable I felt they muffled the sound too much, tamed the treble and decreased the soundstage.

 

I can't quite remember if the blue or red foam was the closest to the triple flanger. I think it was the shortest one, the red one?

i agree, i also tried them and they arent anywhere near as good as the ety triple flange.

 

ive said it before, before ety i never tried triple flange, i never liked them, but i guess the size of the barrel, the insertion depth, and the angle, makes the triple flange ideal imo

post #3719 of 4813
Yes I totally agree too. I've tried quite a few tips but I still prefer the Ety triple flanges.
post #3720 of 4813

Yep, triple flanges for me too, along with the red filters. Awesome sound for sure, with unmatched isolation.

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