What would I complain about then?
A slightly over elevated lower treble? Psh, that's debatable. I need solid stuff here that'll hold water.
Complain about the fact that inserting them to proper depth impinges on the brains ability to perceive the colour ochre on one side and decreases one's ability to throw darts accurately on the other
Where are you getting the pain from with the iems? is this using the triple flange or other silicone?
i absolutely hated triple flange until i tried the er4p, i mean i never rocked the triple flange but something about either the small design with the barrels and how they sit in your ear, thats probably what makes them so comfortable for me at least.
massive noise isolation with the triple flange, i havent yet tried any other tip etymotic says 42db of isolation with the foam, thats insane, thats enough isolation to tolerate a mother,girlfriend or wife. or even turning that girlfriend INTO a Wife with alligations like that etymotic might want to watch that whole turning the girlfriend into a wife thing might be a liability... might go messing up your whole life LOL
id rather be married to the music
What about EQ to make up the difference? What about changing to another IEM? Relative to other IEM's, ER4 is among the thinnest sounding out there.
i Actually find the er4p quite pleasing Of course i am keen on analytical sounding IEM's....i dont know if its from the Low Pass Filter opamp upgrade in the Db2 boomslang or what But i actually find the bass quite pleasing.
its kind of a odd little iem, becuase its almost completely accurate, then at times im suprised at how low the bass presentation can get, it obviously isnt bass heavy. but if you want to critically listen to music and hear every little thing the er4 is by definition in my opinion perfect,
i did alot of reading on the er4 and they surpassed what i thought i would think of them.
i mean in comparison to the w4r and the se535 i have to get cables to get those iem's to present the kinda clarity and the kind of transparency that the er4p do effortlessly without any ''extras''
i agree. i think the thing about the er4p/s is that its not quantity or quality but accuracy of the bass response. i use only lossless files, and they are VERY true to form, if the bass is in the track you hear it. on some tracks im like its not bassy, on other tracks where the bass is prodominate you hear it. i think the thing people might take away from the etymotic's is they arent synthetic sounding they are flat and accurate they are implimenting any frequency responses or peaks that arent supposed to be there..like adding color to the sound. true to form these are.
I have to disagree with this. ER4S is a touch bright, analytical, cool in tonality but something it does overly well is hold weight in the mid range while displaying those characteristics. IEM that leans on the thin side to me would be R-50, DBA-02, or even my Rhapsodio hybrid which is terribly rich / lean sounding IEM.
Someone mentioned a slight absence with ER4S in lower mid range, I can agree with that, or more so the upper mid range is a touch emphasised in comparison. That's why my Xuelin IHIFI 760 is a good match, it tends to have an emphasis in the lower mid range, gives good heft and posture to female vocals filingl in that slight gap otherwise present with my Studio V units.
I'll be trying my ER4S with JDS C421 (OPA2227) this afternoon. Leckerton UHA760 didn't win any prizes to my ears.
JDS C5 was decent, however I feel the Studio and 760 units do a better job personally.
So, I have ordered S earpiece adapters from Awwan, a replacement Westone cable, and a TRRS plug. I'll cut off the TRS plug and solder the TRRS in place of it. Total spent was approx. $60. Hopefully it turns out to be a nice upgrade with the HM-901 and Bal card :) Worst case scenario is that I'm sure someone would love to get some of these adapters 2nd hand, and a Westone user would appreciate a TRRS cable.