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My issues with the MH1 are of of quality control and overall design. Ergonomically they are a disaster and because of the difficulties involved in recabling them (removing that back cap is only the beginning of what can charitably be called a nightmare) they are at best considered and advanced diy project. The time investment required in them makes IEM's which are a little more pricey look like a bargain.

Yeah, which makes the RE-400 a no-brainer lol.

post #3407 of 9949
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Yeah, which makes the RE-400 a no-brainer lol.
The re400 for 100 bucks is the most amazing iem I've ever heard. Specially at that price ..almost at any price actually. Remarkable
post #3408 of 9949
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The re400 for 100 bucks is the most amazing iem I've ever heard. Specially at that price ..almost at any price actually. Remarkable

Yep! Funny part is, i think it could've easily gone for $250 without complaint.

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Oh goodie the MH1, again.


Just tellin' it like it is! :-P


It really is personal preference. No question there. But i believe accuracy is for the most part science. You calibrate a tv with calibration equipment and measurements. You can set the colors how you like them, but accuracy is based on standards and adjusting to meet those standards based on measurements. It's not much different in audio.

it is much different, there are no unicorn threaded cables and my dead pixels won't remove themselves from my screen after 200hours of burn in. those lazy photo and video gears just follow the universal laws of physics like sheeps. it's distasteful!!!!
to calm myself I'll now go and safely play sarcastaball.
Have fun with that sarcasticball, and when you're ready you can come back and join me in pure-science-land. :-P
post #3410 of 9949
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Just tellin' it like it is! :-P


It really is personal preference. No question there. But i believe accuracy is for the most part science. You calibrate a tv with calibration equipment and measurements. You can set the colors how you like them, but accuracy is based on standards and adjusting to meet those standards based on measurements. It's not much different in audio.


My issues with the MH1 are of of quality control and overall design. Ergonomically they are a disaster and because of the difficulties involved in recabling them (removing that back cap is only the beginning of what can charitably be called a nightmare) they are at best considered and advanced diy project. The time investment required in them makes IEM's which are a little more pricey look like a bargain.
I agree about the diy, but i'd be completely happy with the stock cable. It's not that bad, especially when worn properly. But let's not get too sidetracked from the thread topic. :-)

Speaking of the er4s, what sort of tolerance are the resistors? If i wanted to make my own adapter, what are we talking for resistors?
post #3411 of 9949
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I agree about the diy, but i'd be completely happy with the stock cable. It's not that bad, especially when worn properly. But let's not get too sidetracked from the thread topic. :-)

Speaking of the er4s, what sort of tolerance are the resistors? If i wanted to make my own adapter, what are we talking for resistors?

For SMD resistors, the typical tolerance is 0.1 to 1%. I can't imagine either type costing much, it's the shipping that'll get you, but even then you're looking at no more say $10.

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I agree about the diy, but i'd be completely happy with the stock cable. It's not that bad, especially when worn properly. But let's not get too sidetracked from the thread topic. :-)


Speaking of the er4s, what sort of tolerance are the resistors? If i wanted to make my own adapter, what are we talking for resistors?
For SMD resistors, the typical tolerance is 0.1 to 1%. I can't imagine either type costing much, it's the shipping that'll get you, but even then you're looking at no more say $10.
I was thinking of adding an impedance switch to my a/b switch. Maybe 32/50/75/100/300 ohm switch. Those seem the most common impedances for high end receivers, adapters, etc. I was thinking standard resistors for ease of creation. I'd like to create a pcb with eagle and make a nice small case, but for now i was thinking just soldering wires to resistors. Just as good, but bigger obviously. I could do the impedance switch on the input or for each output separately for comparison...
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I was thinking of adding an impedance switch to my a/b switch. Maybe 32/50/75/100/300 ohm switch. Those seem the most common impedances for high end receivers, adapters, etc. I was thinking standard resistors for ease of creation. I'd like to create a pcb with eagle and make a nice small case, but for now i was thinking just soldering wires to resistors. Just as good, but bigger obviously. I could do the impedance switch on the input or for each output separately for comparison...

Are you talking like a rotary switch with different resistor sets for the ER4? Interesting. 

post #3414 of 9949
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Are you talking like a rotary switch with different resistor sets for the ER4? Interesting. 
Exactly,
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Exactly,

I am curious to see what 300 ohms gets you. I think it will either be very clear, or too bright.

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Exactly,
I am curious to see what 300 ohms gets you. I think it will either be very clear, or too bright.
I was thinking of having that for testing other iems. Like the westone 4r. I put 100oms on the 4r are it helped a good amount to reduce the mid bass. I wonder what more would do...
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It would look something like this...

 

post #3418 of 9949
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It would look something like this...

 

I only see one potential flaw, and that is volume matching, but there's really no way around it seamlessly unless you add a highly variable gain switch. You could possibly add a second input, but they have to be in sync.

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It would look something like this...

 

 

one problem here is volume matching. I play with little impedance adapters all the time, but it's really a problem to have so much difference in volume (going from nothing to 100ohm is no joke in level attenuation). so the ultimate dreambox would need something to compensate the different volumes for each impedances, but that part mustn't change impedance by itself... argh!

 

also depending on what IEM you plan to use in the futur, lower values can be nice. for an ER4 5ohm is a joke, and for W4 the dip in high mids is so huge that anything is welcome to reduce it, but some IEMs are super sensitive to impedance, yet really close to perfect(for me) signature wise. then just 2 or 3 ohm can be the icing on the cake to just make that 1db difference.

also I find it usefull when making 2 sources close in impedance output so that I can judge real differences.

 

anyway, if you make such a box, I want one! (unless you make your price tags like astell&kern)

 

 

edit: ahahah same ideas same critic, I love it!


Edited by castleofargh - 12/16/13 at 9:04pm
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My ER4S have returned today, we need not worry for their safety any longer. ;)


They also returned with a new friend, my latest add on for my source collection.

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