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Well, I grabbed a pair of sony mh1 for $20.  Oh my goodness.  I think I found a replacement for my pfe112.  They are surprisingly similar to the pfe112 but they sound like they have less distortion or something.  A little more sub bass, which isn't bad.  They are actually a lot better than I expected.  For the price I'd have to put them pretty high in terms of value.  I'll have to listen to them more before any real review or anything, but this might be my all around set while the er4s is my critical at home set.

I didn't like the MH1 when I owned it. The mids and treble was good. But the bass was a complete mess. The sub-bass was extremely emphasized, very muddy, and distorted.

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I didn't like the MH1 when I owned it. The mids and treble was good. But the bass was a complete mess. The sub-bass was extremely emphasized, very muddy, and distorted.

 

I think the first iteration of the MH1 may have had some major issues just like you experienced. Rin got another version which turned out much better

post #3063 of 4810
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

Well, I grabbed a pair of sony mh1 for $20.  Oh my goodness.  I think I found a replacement for my pfe112.  They are surprisingly similar to the pfe112 but they sound like they have less distortion or something.  A little more sub bass, which isn't bad.  They are actually a lot better than I expected.  For the price I'd have to put them pretty high in terms of value.  I'll have to listen to them more before any real review or anything, but this might be my all around set while the er4s is my critical at home set.

I didn't like the MH1 when I owned it. The mids and treble was good. But the bass was a complete mess. The sub-bass was extremely emphasized, very muddy, and distorted.

 

Not at all the case with my mh1.  The sub bass and mid bass are definitely a bit more than neutral, but overall still very smooth and flat sounding.  This is the eq I am using (haven't spent too much time with them yet) and they sound excellent.  Almost identical in overall response to the pfe112 but without the treble peaks and a bit better super low sub bass.

 

 

-2db centered around 125hz.  That's pretty minimal.  I find them to sound very good, and if time proves that my initial listening tests are how they seem I'll probably end up selling my pfe and pfe backup.  For $20 that's pretty crazy.  But who knows.  Maybe more time will show more flaws.  We'll see.  Either way, best $20 earphones I've ever heard.

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Food for Thought:

The Tio looks like something EtyHeads will enjoy (well, with 90 ohm serial resistance)

 

Reasons:

  • Green (1500 ohm) damper located at the front of the stem, which is similar in length to the ER4.
  • Almost certainly uses a Sonion 2389 (or a very similar variant), which is the Sonion equivalent to the ED-29689.
  • Metal body is an upgrade over plastic, but the shape still enables deep insertion, and appears compatible with Ety ear tips.
  • MFI-compatible, pretty L-plug.
post #3065 of 4810

Anyhow...back to the Ety love!

 

I recommend listening to Balam Acab and oOoOO's first ep's on Triangle records for those who think the ER4S lack bass presence, and for the sound-stage nonbelievers try any Sun Kil Moon album...you can thank me later. I've lived with the UE11 for many years and they are unarguably bass beasts but the Ety's had them beat hands down for accuracy and breadth.

 

It is slowly dawning on me that these are some of the best headphones ever made, at any cost. At the very least they are my own personal favorites and they scale up incredibly with exceptional source and amplification.

 

During a long listening session on my home system last night I found myself often shaking my head in disbelief that such a small, unassuming earphone could create such a breathtaking, rich and deep sound-scape.

 

Dr. Killion, Bevis à tout!

 


Edited by mark_h - 11/1/13 at 6:34am
post #3066 of 4810

^ yep yep

post #3067 of 4810

Incorruptible, I see.

post #3068 of 4810
I'm corruptible but have a healthy fear of Ultrasone.
post #3069 of 4810

Can anyone confirm if the Etymotic filter colours follow the Knowles colours?  Also do the red filters listed under the ety8 also fit the ER4 series?

 

Dead horse I know but if the S is just a P with the inline resistance that can't be removed and the P now comes with the P2S cable... any downside to getting the P?

post #3070 of 4810
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Can anyone confirm if the Etymotic filter colours follow the Knowles colours?  Also do the red filters listed under the ety8 also fit the ER4 series?

 

Dead horse I know but if the S is just a P with the inline resistance that can't be removed and the P now comes with the P2S cable... any downside to getting the P?

I can't verify the first two questions for you at the moment, but there's no downside to getting the P. I have the P with cable and it isn't any different. There is an upside though, you can purchase a C&C BH2 amp and turn the P into a B, while still having the S option. 3-in-1, and the amp is $100.

post #3071 of 4810
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post  I'm corruptible but have a healthy fear of Ultrasone.

 

The Tio actually sounds quite nice (but that's against the IQ, which is horrendous).

 

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post  Can anyone confirm if the Etymotic filter colours follow the Knowles colours?  Also do the red filters listed under the ety8 also fit the ER4 series?

 

Dead horse I know but if the S is just a P with the inline resistance that can't be removed and the P now comes with the P2S cable... any downside to getting the P?

 

They should. Knowles is a longtime partner to Etymotic. Heck, even Sonion follows the color code set by Knowles.

post #3072 of 4810

Is the USB input more than just for charging?  BK seems to be similar but lower gain/noise?  Less fever as they say ;)

post #3073 of 4810
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

Is the USB input more than just for charging?  BK seems to be similar but lower gain/noise?  Less fever as they say ;)

nah its just for charging, the BK doesn't have the P to B output jack if im not mistaken.

post #3074 of 4810

Not to high jack the thread but... any idea what the bass boost and gain specs are?

post #3075 of 4810

So, I got my ER-4S's on Friday and have spent about 4 hours listening to them so far and I thought I would post my first impressions.

 

However, I should state up front that I am very much a fan of good bass in a headphone.  It's very important for me.  I wouldn't call myself a "bass head" because that seems to mean people who like extra bass, and I like good bass, true bass, faithful bass, accurate bass.

 

Thus, it should come as no surprise that I have to disagree with those who say the ER-4S is a great IEM.

 

I think it's way beyond great.  In fact, I think it's near perfection.  (At least to my taste.)

 

OH . . . MY . . . GOD!  I freaking LOVE these things!

 

I have never, ever before heard bass this perfect, this tight, this accurate, this faithful.  THIS is the sound I have been looking for all my life.  Seriously.  (OK, well, since I started listening to music, anyway.  hehe).  And of course, everything else is near perfection as well--and I am really just as much a fan of mids and highs as of bass, but there's just something so wonderful and rare about excellence in bass reproduction that really gets me when I encounter it.

 

And I am listening to these straight out of my iPhone 5S.  No amp.  No outboard DAC.  And, on that front, I should report that the 5S has way more than enough volume with the ER-4S's.  I'm at like 5 out of 8 or something.  I actually put a volume limit back in so I don't accidentally blast my ears.  I had taken the volume limit out right before firing up the ER-4S's, expecting to be near the top of the range.  But no.  It's very much the same place on the slider as my Senn HD-595's and Sony MDR-7506's.  So I'm really glad I got the ER-4S's instead of the ER-4P's.

 

And I think the iPhone 5S audio codec really benefits from a higher impedance phone.  It could be because it's output impedance is >1 ohm (probably like 3 ohms), or it could be for some other reasons, but anecdotally, so far, this has been what I have found: it likes higher impedance headphones.


Also, I should report that the stock 1/8" connector plugs in nicely to my 5S with an Elago Outfit Matrix case installed.  So no need for any extra connectors in the chain or for modifying the case or plug or anything like that.  Wonderful!

 

A couple questions:

 

1. The shirt clip snaps on the resistor barrel, yes?  I haven't wanted to force it on until I got confirmation of this.

 

2. The little carry pouch provided seems too small!  Is there a trick to getting things to fit quickly and easily?  Or is there another popular, readily available container or case people use for the ER-4S's.

 

My apologies if these have been answered many times before.  I am planning on reading this whole thread over the coming weeks, but right now, I have only read the beginning few pages and the last ones since I posted and a half dozen prior to that.  Thanks in advance!

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