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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

They're like the Bob Marley or Jimmy Hendrix of IEMs. Living legends...

 

Not quite, in my not so humble opinion. They—if I may say so—are the King Crimson of IEMs.

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Wow what a pleasant surprise. Nice impressions music. Glad you're enjoying them. Tbh I'm quite shocked, given your current preferences. Do the ER4S' mids have any similarities to the piano forte?
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Wow what a pleasant surprise. Nice impressions music. Glad you're enjoying them. Tbh I'm quite shocked, given your current preferences. Do the ER4S' mids have any similarities to the piano forte?

 

Hmm... er, not really. The PF's mids are quite unique, along with their whole presentation—an IEM that many would not fully appreciate. Definitely an IEM you'd have to hear yourself to reach your very own personal conclusions regardless of what may be considered 'correct' from a FR / measurements standpoint.

 

That said, to me, the ER4S mids are impeccable, but for me, the PF mids are compelling (but, again, it's not just the mids in the PFs), something I've simply been unable to put into words no matter how hard I've tried.

 

I have to add that the ER4S has proved to be a very solid all-rounder—quite surprising, really, as I simply didn't expect that—and, as I've stated a couple of times: an ear/headphone that is able to render most music genres / albums and recording and/or mastering types (very) competently is a great phone in my book. The ER4S is indeed a great phone.

 

And, for those who know me and perhaps may be wondering, I'd easily take the ER4S over the ASG-2, SD2 & FA-4, though I have to say the FA-4 is the best of those three, and an IEM I'm sure many would prefer over the 4S, but not our most popular HF'er, that awfuly charming and ever so friendly sparrow dude.


Edited by music_4321 - 9/6/13 at 9:56am
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Not quite, in my not so humble opinion. They—if I may say so—are the King Crimson of IEMs.

The epitaph of earphones?
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The epitaph of earphones?

 

Perhaps... but I see it more as a seminal band/ IEM that's been more influential than many would know, but a band/ IEM that many simply don't like / appreciate / understand.

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Nearly 5 hrs with the ER4S...

 

Absolutely stellar midrange. FWIW, I maintain the midrange is really a very difficult frequency to get right, the most difficult to get right, in fact, to me.

 

The ER4S analytical? Clinical? Cold? A tool? Reference? Gotta love them terms! These bleeding phones render music absolutely brilliantly! And, to these ears, they indeed play in the very same league the K3003s & Parterres play.

 

The ER4S is without a doubt the best audio purchase I've made in a long time (considering the price). The midrange is to die for and well worth the price of admission; the treble is wonderfully extended, detailed AND smooth!; the bass, though not perfect, is certainly very, very very capable — I'm still shocked at the quality of the bass, totally unexpected (fit is most definitely key here).

 

Yes, sonically, the ER4S is a masterpiece.

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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post
 

Nearly 5 hrs with the ER4S...

 

Absolutely stellar midrange. FWIW, I maintain the midrange is really a very difficult frequency to get right, the most difficult to get right, in fact, to me.

 

The ER4S analytical? Clinical? Cold? A tool? Reference? Gotta love them terms! These bleeding phones render music absolutely brilliantly! And, to these ears, they indeed play in the very same league the K3003s & Parterres play.

 

The ER4S is without a doubt the best audio purchase I've made in a long time (considering the price). The midrange is to die for and well worth the price of admission; the treble is wonderfully extended, detailed AND smooth!; the bass, though not perfect, is certainly very, very very capable — I'm still shocked at the quality of the bass, totally unexpected (fit is most definitely key here).

 

Yes, sonically, the ER4S is a masterpiece.

 

I definitely agree, especially with your view of mids. So few iems get them right imo. I think some people are just more sensitive to mids tonality, or their HRTF makes comparatively warm mids sound more realistic. It's hard to say. 

 

Earlier you mentioned a slight lack of sub-bass and that you wouldn't mind a tiny tiny bit more mid-bass. I again recommend the red filters to try, as the tonality is preserved, and the bass gets slightly more presence in comparison to the mids and treble. It's a very subtle effect; telling the difference actually takes some concentration imo. It's pretty cheap too. 

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I definitely agree, especially with your view of mids. So few iems get them right imo. I think some people are just more sensitive to mids tonality, or their HRTF makes comparatively warm mids sound more realistic. It's hard to say. 

Earlier you mentioned a slight lack of sub-bass and that you wouldn't mind a tiny tiny bit more mid-bass. I again recommend the red filters to try, as the tonality is preserved, and the bass gets slightly more presence in comparison to the mids and treble. It's a very subtle effect; telling the difference actually takes some concentration imo. It's pretty cheap too. 

The great thing is that if you do use eq, it is a simple gentle eq of the sub bass... You should at least try my eq. Even if you don't use it, see what you think.
Edited by luisdent - 9/6/13 at 3:24pm
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A pair of headphones I can agree with the sparrow on! Who knew.

As a recent er4 listener, what I've found is that the more time you spend with only the ER4S, the more you can appreciate the sound. I've only really missed the bass thoroughly with 1-2 albums, but especially when I go A/Bing with other bassy IEMs.

Otherwise, it is as you say, fantastic in-ears, whose only fault is an ever so slight lack of sub-bass extension and presence.
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I definitely agree, especially with your view of mids. So few iems get them right imo. I think some people are just more sensitive to mids tonality, or their HRTF makes comparatively warm mids sound more realistic. It's hard to say. 

 

Earlier you mentioned a slight lack of sub-bass and that you wouldn't mind a tiny tiny bit more mid-bass. I again recommend the red filters to try, as the tonality is preserved, and the bass gets slightly more presence in comparison to the mids and treble. It's a very subtle effect; telling the difference actually takes some concentration imo. It's pretty cheap too. 

 

You know, the more I listen, the less I want to change anything. Seriously. That's why I said earlier on that a bigger part of me wanted to leave the ER4S unchanged as I kept being more and more impressed as I heard more tracks / albums. Yes, I'd like to try other filters, and probably will eventually, but slight changes may affect the whole presentation (even very slightly), and I just don't want any changes in the way the midrange, in particular, is presented, so right now I just love the way the 4S sounds. And I do like the bass much more than you might think. Maybe it's all of you guys who ain't getting a proper fit after all!

 

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A pair of headphones I can agree with the sparrow on! Who knew.

 

Probably not a good thing — I'll try to dislike them a bit, then!

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The great thing is that if you do use eq, it is a simple gentle eq of the sub bass... You should at least try my eq. Even if you don't use it, see what you think.

 

If Mr luisdent heard the PF IX, he'd probably get the shock of his life!

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If Mr luisdent heard the PF IX, he'd probably get the shock of his life!

Good or bad? The frequency charts don't look very impressive. :-P. do they actually sound any good with pianos being played forte? ;-). I'd love to try them.
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Good or bad?

 

Bad. Very bad, in your case.

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Absolutely brilliant rendering of this track by the ER4S: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/09+The+Creator+Has+A+Master+Tape/4xVjjx?src=5

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Bad. Very bad, in your case.

 

I figured.  Probably do to the complete lack of bass?:-P  they're pretty though ;)

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