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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post
 

My aim is just that, what was stated above: to "put Messrs luisdent & gnarlsagan (and other Ety fanboys) firmly in their place, i.e. I'll be trashing the venerable and legendary ER4S". I think 200€ is well worth the price to get all those in this thread (and lurkers alike) to soon sell (or throw away) their Etys and eventually cause Etymotic Research to go bankrupt.

 

EDIT: Still curious about the "bass-head" filters.

 

This will be fun! But it's a shame I could have saved you 200€ by writing your review for you. "The ER4S is lacking any semblance of bass. The soundstage is claustrophobically small. And as for the fit, I might as well be jamming pencils in my ears; they might even sound nicer."

 

How's that? :p

 

And the red filters are recommended. There is plenty of info here, including where to buy them and graphs from Rin. The effect is rather minimal, but the reds bring down the mids and some upper treble about 2dB. This sounds more accurate to me and lusident. 

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

 

This will be fun! But it's a shame I could have saved you 200€ by writing your review for you. "The ER4S is lacking any semblance of bass. The soundstage is claustrophobically small. And as for the fit, I might as well be jamming pencils in my ears; they might even sound nicer."

 

How's that? :p

 

And the red filters are recommended. There is plenty of info here, including where to buy them and graphs from Rin. The effect is rather minimal, but the reds bring down the mids and some upper treble about 2dB. This sounds more accurate to me and lusident. 

 

And don't forget the horrible cable noise every time you move!  ;-) haha

 

The red's are subtle but after listening to them a while they really make things a little bit more easy to listen to in the sense that they take down the one or two trouble areas of the treble.  By trouble areas I just mean they improve what isn't as perfect.  Related to other earphones the stock filters sound amazing. ;)  

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I wonder why etymotic decided to go with the green filters as stock rather than red?-They must have decided at some point for a reason?
I haven't heard the reds yet,but it sounds like they are a better match,from how they are described. (Not that I have any complaints with the greens of course!) .
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None of the provided stock tips sound as good as the custom tips, as the bores are too small. Even with custom tips, there are differences. I have two pairs, one with longer bores, one with shorter bores. The one with shorter bores sound better, as it allows a deeper insertion and as a result, has a more spherical soundstage.

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Hi Luisdent,

 

Sent the additional amount.  Thanks for organizing the group buy!

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None of the provided stock tips sound as good as the custom tips, as the bores are too small. Even with custom tips, there are differences. I have two pairs, one with longer bores, one with shorter bores. The one with shorter bores sound better, as it allows a deeper insertion and as a result, has a more spherical soundstage.

 

This isn't a problem with the stock tips if you cut the smallest flange off of the triple flange. 

 

700

 

As you can see the bore extends past the tip, taking the tips out of the equation. 

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

This isn't a problem with the stock tips if you cut the smallest flange off of the triple flange. 

700


As you can see the bore extends past the tip, taking the tips out of the equation. 
By using the tips like that so you find that the filters get clogged up a lot easier ?? Like with ear wax. Seems like the filters would IMO ??
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post
 

 

This isn't a problem with the stock tips if you cut the smallest flange off of the triple flange. 

 

700

 

As you can see the bore extends past the tip, taking the tips out of the equation. 

How does that change the sound?

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By using the tips like that so you find that the filters get clogged up a lot easier ?? Like with ear wax. Seems like the filters would IMO ??
I don't really have any issues. If you buy the filters in bulk or with a group buy they're pretty cheap anyway...
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By using the tips like that so you find that the filters get clogged up a lot easier ?? Like with ear wax. Seems like the filters would IMO ??
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How does that change the sound?

No I keep my ears extremely clean. Haven't had to change filters once, and it's been at least a few months.

I'll try to do some comparisons to see how the sound changes, but this was mostly done for fit. This shape allows me to achieve optimal insertion depth without the last flange going too deep. It also allows the ER4S to go deep enough for the cable to go over the ear.
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

 

This will be fun! But it's a shame I could have saved you 200€ by writing your review for you. "The ER4S is lacking any semblance of bass. The soundstage is claustrophobically small. And as for the fit, I might as well be jamming pencils in my ears; they might even sound nicer."

 

How's that? :p

 

I love spending and wasting money, but I don't like others doing the dirty work for me.

 

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And the red filters are recommended. There is plenty of info here, including where to buy them and graphs from Rin. The effect is rather minimal, but the reds bring down the mids and some upper treble about 2dB. This sounds more accurate to me and lusident.

 

Thanks!

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I can never tell when you're being somewhat deadpan sarcastic, or absolutely serious...

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Even his bird avatar looks sarcastic. Lmao
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post
 

 

With saliva (after having had a curry or some nice spicy Mexican food)? Yuck! Or with some K-Y jelly? Yuck!! Or with some Oto-Ease (by Westone)?

 

 

 

As a general info post here. If you are of the school who moistens the tips (ie your ears are that clean their is no "natural lubricant") Wal Mart sells pure Aloe Vera, uncolored for about 5 bucks a bottle. About half a drop on a fingertip is enough to moisten both tips enough for insertion.

post #2385 of 4677

Just spray some WD40 up on those babies!

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