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Imagine listening to a 50 decibel 4000 Hz tone in your ears all day every day. That's me...

 

Music helps me escape it by masking it. Fans and other gentle background noises help too.

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Imagine listening to a 50 decibel 4000 Hz tone in your ears all day every day. That's me...

 

Music helps me escape it by masking it. Fans and other gentle background noises help too.

 

That sucks.  Are there any experimental treatments for hearing loss yet?  Maybe one day they'll be able to reproduce live hair cells in the ear and grow back or implant replacements for the damaged receptors/hairs/whatever.  :-/

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Lots of snake oil and pseudo science (just like head-fi...lol). Some promising studies, but mostly around aclimatizing and masking. Some stem cell research around regrowing hairs... I doubt if there will be a cure in my lifetime.

On the bright side, it nets me a check for $129 from the VA every month cool.gif
Edited by palmfish - 6/23/13 at 1:24pm
post #1849 of 5025
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Lots of snake oil and pseudo science (just like head-fi...lol).

 

Well said. :-P haha

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Haha, you mean comfort?

I'm there with you.  Call me crazy, but I endure the pain. haha.  Since I've been using the foams and got used to them it's not really an issue anymore.  In fact, they're "almost" comfortable. hahaha  I should make a meme for that.

Haha, aftermarket tips is where it's at. I'm using small tips from the Panasonic RP-HJE355. Surprisingly these have almost as narrow a nozzle as the etys and the bog-standard-looking single flange small tips from these are long and narrow and when fitted on the etys can go as deep as any stock tips and much more comfortably at that too. Also less fuss than foams etysmile.gif Triflanges are the work of the devil basshead.gif
Edited by Joe Bloggs - 6/24/13 at 1:13am
post #1851 of 5025

Tried the tri flanges again. Terrible terrible damage. I mean pain.

post #1852 of 5025
Try cutting off the last smallest flange. The resulting double flange is much more doable for me.
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I have an old modified tri flange, the old white tri flanges, but they don't sound right to me. I'll try them again later.
 

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For me they have to go very deep, past the second bend to sound correct. Hopefully that works for you. Also the triflange I cut was the grey stock one, not white if that makes a difference.
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Try cutting off the last smallest flange. The resulting double flange is much more doable for me.

 

Same here.  Although I find having the third flange actually allows them to give a little bit better treble.  I'm talking an uber miniscule difference, but I think the last tip extending that much further in brings the treble deeper into the ear before allowing the canal to reflect or change it at all.  The difference is pretty much moot though.  Less difference than changing any tips.  And the comfort is an improvement.

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For me they have to go very deep, past the second bend to sound correct. Hopefully that works for you. Also the triflange I cut was the grey stock one, not white if that makes a difference.

 

Deeeeeeeeep.  Mine were the grey as well.  I even cut off the back (largest) flange on a pair and tried those.  They are much easier to get deeper for me, and I have an issue where the largest flanges get all warped because of my ear shape so they can cause sealing issues (why i use foams now).  But cutting the biggest flange off requires more care with insertion and has its own seal issues if you're not doing it carefully.  It didn't really improve anything though.

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New cardas iems are out now. Would love to hear any comparisons with er4s from early adopters ;) 

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New cardas iems are out now. Would love to hear any comparisons with er4s from early adopters ;) 

 

Link?

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New cardas iems are out now. Would love to hear any comparisons with er4s from early adopters ;) 

 

I have a prediction...

 

The Cardas earspeakers will be far superior to the ER-4, with unrivaled PRAT, superior timbral accuracy, and vivid organicness. A greater tonal density accompanied by a larger sense of air and space around instruments and vocals, with deeper tighter bass and sweet, natural highs without a trace of sibilance. Listening to the Cardas earspeakers is akin to drinking the sweet nectar of the gods unfiltered. It makes poor recordings sound liquid smooth and sweet and fine recordings sound ethereally. Compared to the ER-4, the Cardas Earspeaker sounds more natural - smoother with more natural harmonic decay. The overall sound is less hi-fi - etched, and more organic with the Cardas. 

 

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Edited by palmfish - 6/26/13 at 3:37pm
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With an earthy musk, hints of melon and caramel, and voluptuous body. An IEM that's mature, seductive, with legs that go on forever and a prolonged finish.

What's the vintage on that Cardas?
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I have a prediction...

 

The Cardas earspeakers will be far superior to the ER-4, with unrivaled PRAT, superior timbral accuracy, and vivid organicness. A greater tonal density accompanied by a larger sense of air and space around instruments and vocals, with deeper tighter bass and sweet, natural highs without a trace of sibilance. Listening to the Cardas earspeakers is akin to drinking the sweet nectar of the gods unfiltered. It makes poor recordings sound liquid smooth and sweet and fine recordings sound ethereally. Compared to the ER-4, the Cardas Earspeaker sounds more natural - smoother with more natural harmonic decay. The overall sound is less hi-fi - etched, and more organic with the Cardas. 

 

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Funny, but I actually read impressions from guys who heard them at meets, and they said they sounded like crap.

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