If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you... - Page 70

hey,

I'm glad you got a good pairing. I found the er4s from ak100 lacked power...i used it also via my glacier amp and just found the ak100 too neutral for the er4s. 

it worked v well with momentums. 

I love etymotics myself. So i was disappointed. macbook pro to glacier to er4s is a great mobile setup, but unless I get a more coloured or relaxed amp/or same for new iems

I found the ak100 not to my taste. 

What music are you using? 

Yea I tend to find my self around 65-75 but for me it is just enough to keep me happy. I use the albums I get from society of sound which are 24/48 flac. I highly recommend this album with the Ak100 and er4s combo:

http://www.amazon.com/Dune-Ottmar-Liebert-Luna-Negra/dp/B007RLBHS4

Here is a sampler 

https://soundcloud.com/ottmar/sets/dune-ottmar-liebert

I find myself loving the ER4P with my RWAK100 much more than with the 75ohms adapter.

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Originally Posted by uelover 

I find myself loving the ER4P with my RWAK100 much more than with the 75ohms adapter.

I dont have the ER4P but I do have the ACS T15 which also pairs really good with AK100 however the treble is nowhere as good as the ER4S but it has better bass, larger quantity. 

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Originally Posted by audionewbi 

I dont have the ER4P but I do have the ACS T15 which also pairs really good with AK100 however the treble is nowhere as good as the ER4S but it has better bass, larger quantity. 

I find the ER4P with 75 ohms adapter (I assume it sounds similar to the ER4S) to be too forward sounding in its upper mids and the bass to be a little too lean. The ER4P seems to be less forward sounding and with better bass quantity, making it more pleasant for music listening.

I am curious as to how the ER4B sounds like though.

I find it more difficult to listen to the ER-4PT without the 4S adapter. The 4S adapter really does restore the clarity and the treble and bass are further extended with more even tonal balance through and through. I was listening to my AKG K 702 for a long time now to burn them in, but I feel like I'm missing out on the sound now that I'm listening to the ER-4PT/S combination. These are my most accurate IEMs and headphones for that matter. The K 702 are a very close second, but the ER-4PT/S is tops right now. I wish I had better full sized headphones, but I don't and I don't plan to get anything else until later this year during Black Friday or Christmas. I've heard a couple of top of the line UIEMs and none come as close as the ER-4S in terms of accuracy. It is very close to the Ultimate Ears Reference Monitors with the universal fit option that I tried last weekend in NYC. This is the kind of sound that I go for. Mine are my favorite headphones right now. These are near and dear to my heart and ears.
 

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I find the ER-4S to be 92% accurate

The ER-4PT is 86% accurate

The AKG K 702 is about 80% accurate

For me, accuracy is defined by neutrality, clarity, and transparency along with resolution. The ER-4S is the closest to that definition. The ER-4PT is behind because it does not have extended trebles and there is a slight bass boost. There's also a loss in resolution. The K 702 has a softer and more polite neutral sound that is fairly accurate, but it is not nearly as realistic as the ER-4S. I feel like I'm only getting a portion of the accuracy when I listen to them. I think that they're good headphones, but I'm starting to notice the glaring differences. The ER-4S is more involving. It's got the accuracy nailed so the timbres and tonal balance are correct to my ears.

I don't like bass heavy headphones or earphones like the Monster Beats. They're not accurate from top to bottom. I think they are expensive too.

The ER-4S are better than my Ue-18 pro by a wide margin. The Ue-18 pro has problems with frequency incoherence and tonal imbalance as the dual bass woofer drivers are tuned up significantly to provide a more solid foundation to the music. They feel like I'm listening to subwoofers in my ears. On choral mass music, I can hear the disjointed irregularities especially during louder fortissimo sections. Everything gets stuck together like a big mess of incoherence. The ER-4S don't have that problem. They don't have the headroom of the Ue-18 pro, but I'd prefer a leaner sound that commits sins of omission rather than a fuller and richer sound that commits sins of commission.

I'll keep both of them for a few years, but I can easily reach for the ER-4S more frequently when I want to hear the truth in a recording.

I recently bought a 75 ohm adapter from a local DIY guy, and there is a problem with the sound. It's like the stereo connection is loose. Usually the higher parts of guitar and piano are like... disappeared, it's like a big dip. I push the ER4P's jack even harder into the adapter and the sound returned to normal, but when I let it go the sound disappeared again. I tried with some other earphones and other 3.5mm extension cable, and those cables were fine. It's like my ER4P has somewhat short jack or something. But with my mp3 player, my cellphone etc. I don't have any problem with my ER4P jack. So what should I do now? Is it my ER4P that is problematic or is it the adapter?

Yes I love the ER-4S! I have seen a particular IEM list that has the P version mentioned, but not the S,and was given a low score that doesnt make sense with the other IEMs sinilar in score. I think that is what puts people off, plus its old. However, you really cant beat the brutally honest IEM that is the ER-4S for anywhere near its price. Add in customer/warranty service and its a no-brainer.

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Originally Posted by Leslie Dorner 

I find it more difficult to listen to the ER-4PT without the 4S adapter. The 4S adapter really does restore the clarity and the treble and bass are further extended with more even tonal balance through and through. I was listening to my AKG K 702 for a long time now to burn them in, but I feel like I'm missing out on the sound now that I'm listening to the ER-4PT/S combination. These are my most accurate IEMs and headphones for that matter. The K 702 are a very close second, but the ER-4PT/S is tops right now. I wish I had better full sized headphones, but I don't and I don't plan to get anything else until later this year during Black Friday or Christmas. I've heard a couple of top of the line UIEMs and none come as close as the ER-4S in terms of accuracy. It is very close to the Ultimate Ears Reference Monitors with the universal fit option that I tried last weekend in NYC. This is the kind of sound that I go for. Mine are my favorite headphones right now. These are near and dear to my heart and ears.
 

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I find the ER-4S to be 92% accurate

The ER-4PT is 86% accurate

The AKG K 702 is about 80% accurate

 

For me, accuracy is defined by neutrality, clarity, and transparency along with resolution. The ER-4S is the closest to that definition. The ER-4PT is behind because it does not have extended trebles and there is a slight bass boost. There's also a loss in resolution. The K 702 has a softer and more polite neutral sound that is fairly accurate, but it is not nearly as realistic as the ER-4S. I feel like I'm only getting a portion of the accuracy when I listen to them. I think that they're good headphones, but I'm starting to notice the glaring differences. The ER-4S is more involving. It's got the accuracy nailed so the timbres and tonal balance are correct to my ears.

 

I don't like bass heavy headphones or earphones like the Monster Beats. They're not accurate from top to bottom. I think they are expensive too.

 

The ER-4S are better than my Ue-18 pro by a wide margin. The Ue-18 pro has problems with frequency incoherence and tonal imbalance as the dual bass woofer drivers are tuned up significantly to provide a more solid foundation to the music. They feel like I'm listening to subwoofers in my ears. On choral mass music, I can hear the disjointed irregularities especially during louder fortissimo sections. Everything gets stuck together like a big mess of incoherence. The ER-4S don't have that problem. They don't have the headroom of the Ue-18 pro, but I'd prefer a leaner sound that commits sins of omission rather than a fuller and richer sound that commits sins of commission.

Has anyone bought the triple flange tips from Etymotic? If so are they the same as the original tips found in the pack it came with

Reason being I have purchased the "same" tips from Amazon and frankly they weren't the same at all. Slightly darker grey in colour as the original was more whiteish, also the original was slightly thicker rubber and sealed way better...

I want to buy from Etymotic but if they also send me these other type well I just dont care for them.

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Originally Posted by maguire 

Has anyone bought the triple flange tips from Etymotic? If so are they the same as the original tips found in the pack it came with

Reason being I have purchased the "same" tips from Amazon and frankly they weren't the same at all. Slightly darker grey in colour as the original was more whiteish, also the original was slightly thicker rubber and sealed way better...

I want to buy from Etymotic but if they also send me these other type well I just dont care for them.

I got a load of those when i ordered my er4s, all still unused. i use comply foam only. I find them the best personally for comfort. I could post over my spares for cost of postage? PM if interested. Im UK so may

take a week. 

Thanks brunk, wow did not know the triple flange tips come in diff sizes.

Also on a side note, I would like to make my ER4PT into S only. Do I just order an S cable from Etymotic?

I dont want to costantly use the adapter, also prefer the S sound.